Star Trek Discovery Leaving Netflix For Paramount+ Internationally, season 4 global launch in 2022

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Char Kais, Nov 16, 2021.

  1. TedShatner10

    TedShatner10 Commodore Commodore

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    Legal doesn't mean it's actually right or rational, and ViacomCBS, its Nat. Amusements holding company, plus Netflix to a lesser extent, are all looking quite stupid, throttling the goose laying the golden eggs, and painting themselves into a corner by having too many rival streaming services, with the actual content getting stretched too thin.

    It emerged as a concern some years ago, but now most of the audience is feeling the pinch from streaming service pissing matches like this and its damaging IP brands (Trek got suddenly denied 90% of its global audience for 12 to 18 months easily, if we're lucky).
     
  2. fireproof78

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    People bitched about cable too. They wanted a la carte menu in their entertainment. Now there are too many? :shrug:
     
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  3. TedShatner10

    TedShatner10 Commodore Commodore

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    Remember cable died out in part because people paid through the nose for what was eventually revealed as overhyped, vapid content.

    Streaming looks like the future but we're now shown the limits of subscription loyalty and IP ownership, then we're reintroduced to the advantages of physical ownership and why piracy is still relevant.
     
  4. fireproof78

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    I don't remember. I never had cable. I just heard plenty of complaints about it.

    I never saw subscription as a loyalty thing. Pay for one, cancel it, move on. I'm guessing that model is not proving to be as sustainable as initially thought. Piracy will always be relevant because people will never want to pay for something they deem as "should be free." Which is pretty common.
     
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  5. TedShatner10

    TedShatner10 Commodore Commodore

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    Not necessarily loyalty, but a degree of commitment ("Hey, I already got Netflix, why should I pony up for Paramount+?").
     
  6. fireproof78

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    Ok. I'm a month to month person. Pay for one then another. Watch what I want and move on. But, there are few shows on I must see so perhaps I am a poor example.
     
  7. Gingerbread Demon

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    Exactly......... I'm pretty pissed about all this and my new TV hasn't got that channel yet or if they will ever add it.
     
  8. Agony_Boothb

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    To be honest I think Netflix is the one that is going to be in trouble, once other studios start trying to make there own streaming services or begin allying with Apple TV. As studios begin removing their content, Netflix is going to actually need to start producing quality content of their own to keep people interested. Star Trek was the only reason I had netflix and there is very little else on there to hold my interest. I subscribed to Paramount + through my Apple TV subscription and now I get two channels for the same price I paid for Netflix.
     
  9. Bornin1980something

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    Congratulations, I'm sure all on Discovery would be very proud.
     
  10. PiotrB

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    This is not, in the least, a question of trust. Everything we know about the situation comes from a ViacomCBS press release in which ViacomCBS wanted to show itself in the best possible light. I guess if Netflix was at fault ViacomCBS wouldn't have issued a press release in which it takes the fall for itself.
     
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  11. Locutus of Bored

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    Congratulations on the job, Agony_Booth. :beer:
     
  12. TedShatner10

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    Like I said, Netflix losing 3rd party content has been a concern for some years already, though their own content has been enough of a draw, even if it's the strategy of throwing stuff at the wall to see if it sticks (but Squid Game definitely stuck).

    The other content creators (like ViacomCBS) got jealous/greedy and despised Netflix taking a cut, so they pull off blantant anti-consumer nonsense like this by shunting off DSCO to their own pissant streaming service that may not get off the ground (then Netflix scoops it back up anyway).
     
  13. alex08060

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    What a Romulan move, I’m definitely going downloading because that app isn’t coming to my country for years so it’s their big loss. Heck I’m not even going to get the subscription even there is the app in my nation because they care more about money more than their fan base and common sense.
     
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    alex08060 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Actually torrent is outdated, there are some oversea sites that has streaming service so no downloading needed.
     
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    alex08060 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    As a Star Trek fan that leaves us only one option.
     
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    alex08060 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Well they don’t have common sense which is why downloading is going to be such a huge problem.
     
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    alex08060 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Still keeping Netflix because they have many good shows such as squid games so it’s not Netflix that’s losing out because it still owns the world except China. I’m going to have to go Bajor resistance to watch disco because of the cardassian union move.
     
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  18. TedShatner10

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    Yeah, Netflix (despite its set backs and issues) is still a vastly larger and more mature streaming venue than newer upstart Paramount+, which is not guaranteed of expanding into many overseas markets like Disney+ did (also even Disney's success was almost a fluke with the Covid lockdowns boosting their subscriptions in '20).

    Nat. Amusements/ViacomCBS unnecessarily fucked everything and everybody over and come across as the more impatient, senile manbabies here.
     
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    There are so many times when I wish American decision makers would remember that there are lots of people outside of the States, too, and this is definitely one of those times. But then again, an American senator recently called Canada a “failed country”, so if someone like him made this decision, then we really shouldn’t be surprised. Ironically, he said it was because Canada has two languages pitted against one another, so it’s like a tribal warfare. I think it’s a case of the pot calling the kettle black…. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/speech-congress-canada-1.6253849
     
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  20. flandry84

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    I’m not just quitting Netflix out of pique.
    Most times I go on there,scroll and scroll through stuff in which I don’t have time to invest in or stuff I don’t care about.

    YMMV but the concept of Squid game strikes me as cancerous.