Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x10 - "Terra Firma, Part 2"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Dec 16, 2020.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 -Excellent!

    20.8%
  2. 9

    21.7%
  3. 8

    24.6%
  4. 7

    15.5%
  5. 6

    3.9%
  6. 5

    3.9%
  7. 4

    2.4%
  8. 3

    2.4%
  9. 2

    1.9%
  10. 1 - Terrible!

    2.9%
  1. Kevman7987

    Kevman7987 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I'm irritated that when Georgiou went through the Guardian portal she didn't jump through it like Kirk, Spock, and McCoy did.
     
  2. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Cartoon Premium Member

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    I gave it an 8. Brought down by the final scene of folks reminiscing about good ol' Phillipa.
     
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  3. Dave Scarpa

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    geez flipping the opening titles upside down the ingenuity of this writing staff knows no bounds
     
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  4. Dave Scarpa

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    it's the antithesis of what Enterprises writers did with a lot less money.
     
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  5. Kevman7987

    Kevman7987 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    They changed the color too thereby ripping off Fringe (which had a more interesting alternate reality).
     
  6. Dave Scarpa

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    maybe its because this show can't stop using things from the past, badly even thou they sent them ahead of time to free themselves from cannon.
     
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  7. jackoverfull

    jackoverfull Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    agreed, the enterprise one was creative, this felt really cheap.
     
  8. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Maybe because fans demand familiar? They will never be free of canon because it has been used as a bludgeoning instrument so often.
     
  9. Noname Given

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    I have to wonder if:
    They'll just go off and put her in an actual TOS (TV circa 1966) looking 23rd century - and cement the idea that ST: D; STP, SNW actually do take place in a slightly 'alternate' Universe. Either way, I'm happy "Section 31 is a go -- and happy to see Michelle Yeoh headlining her own Star Trek series. BIG WIN!

    Another 9.

    Loved the episode and LOVED the use of the Guardian Of Forever in this manner -- it was GREAT.
    (And given the Temporal War background story of this future, I like the writers didn't just hope everyone forgot the Guardian of Forever existed. It would make sense that whoever knew of it would try to subvert it to their advantage in any Temporal conflict.)

    Here the writers make use of something well known in Star Trek lore - and some fans give them s*it over it.

    RMB can go screw himself -- considering he was part of one of the largest fan film debacles (and attempted IP theft of Star Trek itself) -- doubly so (IMO).

    ETA:
    IMO - no great loss there.
     
  10. Lord Garth

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    It's called a Mirror Image where things are inverted.

    The reason it's not complicated is because it doesn't need to be.
     
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  11. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Isnt mirror usually backwards and not upside down. Made me think of Stranger Things more than Star Trek
    They should have changed all the starfleet symbols for Terran ones at least
     
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  12. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Good point. I would've had it right-side-up but, recently, I was looking into the water and I noticed the reflection and it was upside down. So I figure maybe they were probably going for "The World Is Upside Down"?
     
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  13. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    Agree. It makes the Guardian a little more mundane.
     
  14. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Should have done a Hamilton dance number
     
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  15. Noname Given

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    She just told everyone she was "gone". It's not her fault if they jump to the conclusion that means "dead". :)

    And in the 23rd century - Captains made inaccurate reports all the time.

    - Kirk: " Kahn Noonian Singh and Historian Marla McGivers - 'died' ". (and Spock went along with the lie too)

    - Sulu: "Tried to penetrate Klingon space and rescue Captain Kirk and Leonard McCoy from Rura Penthe...I Never did any such thing..."

    and "No - I don't know how The 1701-A found out about the location of the Khitomer Conference - I NEVER contacted them..."

    So yeah, Michael and Saru (who probably really doesn't know) are totally in line with being 23rd century characters here.
     
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  16. Lonemagpie

    Lonemagpie Writer Admiral

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    Oh, and I loved the inverted title graphics as well.
     
  17. GulBahana

    GulBahana Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    So, I guess Georgeau will continue in her own series? It was cool seeing the guardian. I just hope I don't see another mirror universe episode for a long time.
     
  18. MarsWeeps

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    The Guardian of Forever? WOW!!

    I'm going to miss Georgiou, I know her Section 31 series was delayed so Pike could leapfrog into place but I'll be looking forward to it. Until then, I hope we see her again from time to time.

    I don't know if prime Burnham cried in this episode, but I'll allow it this time. :)

    Loved the episode, it gets a 10 from me.
     
  19. Nerys Myk

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    Would that really be a writing decision?
     
  20. tomalak301

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    I think the track for Enterprise should have been the theme from Season 3 onward. That is still probably one of the most creative things in the Berman/Braga era.