Including one piece of what looks like a Canada Post-issue bulk mail transport cage.
(Some of my temp jobs put me in close proximity to those things.)
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x06 - "Scavengers"
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Including one piece of what looks like a Canada Post-issue bulk mail transport cage.
(Some of my temp jobs put me in close proximity to those things.)
Yup. And even when Voyager finally made contact with Starfleet, there would've been a long timelag until their next meeting with Federation officers. Hence there is no need for whole uniform replacement immediately.
And I suppose Janeway would've shouted bloody murder if someone ever suggested a new uniform takes precedence over her coffee on the replicator
That's kind of my point. A superpower's fall never has one single cause. Making the Burn the sole cause of the Federation's fall is stupid and reductive.
If it was a natural event ,then it wasn't the fall of a superpower, it was a Galaxy wide disaster not limited to just the Federation. More like the Black Plague in Europe or the asteroid impact 66 million years ago.
My read is that the Burn was the last of a series of events that impacted the Federation. The Temporal War, the dilithium shortage and then the Burn.
Plus, it's a TV show in a franchise that's never dug deep into the structure and problems facing the UFP.
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I think this one could go either way. You can point to different things and come to different conclusions. However, I suppose the fact that something is happening to her might favor the idea that glasses guy did something to hear, such as "fixing" her genetic thing. But, I agree with the criticism that comes to close to Eugenics and racial issues. Maybe it has more to do with the universes separating?
Ain't gonna lie but this episode was a dud for me.
Burnham is my favorite Disco character, but I am so frustrated with how the writers handle the character. They skipped a year in Burnham's life so they could grow the character rather than showing the process of her growth. Then they keep bringing her back to square one as the "mutineer". It's like they want to progress her but not at the same time!
Her constant promotion-demotion smacks of Kirk's situation in Into Darkness.
And the show hasn't done the work to make me understand why Burnham is so obsessed with the Burn other than the story needs her to be. What's personally at stake for her? Other than wanting the old Federation back?
In doing so, the show has yet to make the audience care about the Burn other than nostalgia for the Federation. Therefore, I don't care.
Also, the show's arc is the Federation is gone but there's still the Federation. It wants to have its cake and eat it too.
Finally, this season isn't as fun and galavanting like last season. They're stuck with uptight Admirals and buerrarcy in the midst of the apocalypse. Then what was the point of removing the Federation and jumping 900 years later?
It can't commit to its own dystopia arc, which I already don't care for.
Burnham is my favorite Disco character, but I am so frustrated with how the writers handle the character. They skipped a year in Burnham's life so they could grow the character rather than showing the process of her growth. Then they keep bringing her back to square one as the "mutineer". It's like they want to progress her but not at the same time!
Her constant promotion-demotion smacks of Kirk's situation in Into Darkness.
And the show hasn't done the work to make me understand why Burnham is so obsessed with the Burn other than the story needs her to be. What's personally at stake for her? Other than wanting the old Federation back?
In doing so, the show has yet to make the audience care about the Burn other than nostalgia for the Federation. Therefore, I don't care.
Also, the show's arc is the Federation is gone but there's still the Federation. It wants to have its cake and eat it too.
Finally, this season isn't as fun and galavanting like last season. They're stuck with uptight Admirals and buerrarcy in the midst of the apocalypse. Then what was the point of removing the Federation and jumping 900 years later?
It can't commit to its own dystopia arc, which I already don't care for.
We don't know what caused the Burn. It might've been caused by a variety of things. It could be the equivalent of climate change on Earth. You can say many things contributed to it but in the end it's just too much green house gasses in the atmosphere. And, yes, if we ruin the Earth, it could be the single catastrophic reason for the fall of many countries.
Let's wait to see what caused the Burn. But, I do find it to be a credible reason for the fall of Federation and other large empires. It actually strikes me as an effect asymmetric warfare method. If you can't take a large Federation or other empire on militarily, break them down with the Burn.
But the way Vance gets all shifty whenever anyone mentions the Burn, I suspect the Federation has some role in it.
I wonder if Burnham is, or if not yet, is going to work for Federation Security as an under cover agent on Discovery. It would explain why Fleet Admiral Vance didn't take her into custody, but left her on Discovery for Captain Saru to deal with. That would keep her where Federation Security wanted her and her status as such a covert agent intact.
Why isn't this enough?
I'll accept this as an actual problem as soon as Trekyards can explain in-universe why half the crew of the Enterprise-D was wearing the old spine-bending spandex uniforms for years, and what was going on with Generations.
Great episode. Gave it an 8. Not as moving as "Forget Me Not," but still really good. Saru remains my favorite.
I'm glad we see a clash of perspectives/motivations, and that things aren't clear cut as to what's the right choice. Is Michael right or wrong? Well, either way, I'm happy the show isn't letting her off the hook, so to speak. Michael is treating Saru the way Kirk treated Starfleet.
I also love Stamets' relationship to Adira, and the fact that he and Culber have matching pajamas! Haha, that's sweet. Grudge and Tilly were great, as was Linus. As for Philippa, this is easily the best stuff that's been done with her since season one. Even the communications guy, whose name I never remember, had a moment ("Hell yeah we do!") I feel like that's the most he's ever had to say/do on the show, ha.
Yeah, it's an easy enough thing to head canon away to make sense of it - it's 1000 years after Shran, I'm sure the Emerald Chain has some pretty nasty tech that can do such a thing. I hope we see more of Ryn and other Andorians - especially Andorian allies and comrades, not only Emerald Chain baddies.
I'm glad we see a clash of perspectives/motivations, and that things aren't clear cut as to what's the right choice. Is Michael right or wrong? Well, either way, I'm happy the show isn't letting her off the hook, so to speak. Michael is treating Saru the way Kirk treated Starfleet.
I also love Stamets' relationship to Adira, and the fact that he and Culber have matching pajamas! Haha, that's sweet. Grudge and Tilly were great, as was Linus. As for Philippa, this is easily the best stuff that's been done with her since season one. Even the communications guy, whose name I never remember, had a moment ("Hell yeah we do!") I feel like that's the most he's ever had to say/do on the show, ha.
Yeah, it's an easy enough thing to head canon away to make sense of it - it's 1000 years after Shran, I'm sure the Emerald Chain has some pretty nasty tech that can do such a thing. I hope we see more of Ryn and other Andorians - especially Andorian allies and comrades, not only Emerald Chain baddies.
Regarding Orion Pheromones....
If they bring that concept back, as per Enterprise information, any pheromone story on Discovery might be shortlived.
We don’t know how Saru would react to it, but everyone else probably doesn’t care about Orion “slave” girls.... well, Philipps, but that’s it?
If they bring that concept back, as per Enterprise information, any pheromone story on Discovery might be shortlived.
We don’t know how Saru would react to it, but everyone else probably doesn’t care about Orion “slave” girls.... well, Philipps, but that’s it?
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Osyraa will very much not be a slave whenever she shows up. She's the leader of the Emerald Chain and is probably going to be a big villain down the line. You don't namedrop someone like that and then not have her show up. I'm guessing she's going to have Zareh in tow too, who will be looking for revenge against Saru.
I think pheromones will only come into play because Andorians, etc. might claim innocence and say they were brainwashed into joining the Emerald Chain. But I don't think that will happen. If it were that easy, they'd have just brainwashed Book for example.
The last place we saw the dilithium was on Book's ship.
Actually, it was a combination of things that led to the downsize of the Federation; the so-called "Burn" was simply the nail in the coffin. Up until that point, you had the conclusion of the Temporal Cold War, then you had the depletion of dilithium. "The Burn" simply sped things up, and without a constant network of communications arrays to hold the membership together, well, you had a situation where individual members decided that it was best to fend for themselves, rather than devote resources to the Federation.
HOWEVER, I will agree with ONE point: it is stupid that, given the vast resources of the Federation, that not once did someone come up with alternative replacements to dilithium, or that Scotty's "transwarp transporter technology" was not thought up as a temporary means of maintaining contract with member worlds. Hell, dilithium isn;t even a fuel source. And btw? If Section 31 is still around, THEY would have had info on the spore drive tech, even if Starfleet and the Federation didn't know about it. It's silly nonsense that take you out of this show from time to time. Ugh.
Scavengers
The sixth episode of the third season. Discovery has been refitted with 32nd Century technology, becoming Starfleet's new Rapid Response Vessel. Now it's the Discovery A. (Disco A?) Several plots occur. Burnham goes AWOL on a personal mission with Georgiou to rescue Book, leaving Saru to do damage control with Admiral Vance. While this is happening, Stamets connects with Adira. All of these plots are done very well. But first, it's obvious Tilly isn't a cat person, as she's not very confident around Grudge.
Still was a good aside in the episode. The main story was about Burnham's mission to rescue Book, who had located possible information on the Burn.Whether the Federation could be restored if the cause of the Burn is found is only one of the questions that need to be considered. However, the scenes at the Emerald Chain slave warehouse were done rather well. Not sure why they use slaves rather than dumb AIs (probably just because they can), but that doesn't detract from the escape sequence.
Looks like Multi Vector Assult Mode has been refined down the centuries. There certainly something up with Georgiou. Did the Section 31 guy do something to her? Or is it something else? Stamets and Adira connecting was also a good aspect of the epsiode, especially the part where Stamets mentions when Culbur had passed away temporarily. Of course, he still doesn't know all about how Grey is appearing to her, but at least those Spore Drive Interface implants are gone. (But the follow up conversation with Culbur was unnecessary.)
Detmer's hesitation regarding the necessity of the Programable matter upgrades to the Bridge consoles was a good contrast to Rhys' enthusiasm for them. Admiral Vance calling out Burnham for her behaviour was done well too, as was Saru's decision to demote her from First Officer duties. (Maybe Nilsson is Saru's Number One now?) There were some small quibbles, but over all it's a good episode. 8.5/10.
The sixth episode of the third season. Discovery has been refitted with 32nd Century technology, becoming Starfleet's new Rapid Response Vessel. Now it's the Discovery A. (Disco A?) Several plots occur. Burnham goes AWOL on a personal mission with Georgiou to rescue Book, leaving Saru to do damage control with Admiral Vance. While this is happening, Stamets connects with Adira. All of these plots are done very well. But first, it's obvious Tilly isn't a cat person, as she's not very confident around Grudge.
Still was a good aside in the episode. The main story was about Burnham's mission to rescue Book, who had located possible information on the Burn.Whether the Federation could be restored if the cause of the Burn is found is only one of the questions that need to be considered. However, the scenes at the Emerald Chain slave warehouse were done rather well. Not sure why they use slaves rather than dumb AIs (probably just because they can), but that doesn't detract from the escape sequence.
Looks like Multi Vector Assult Mode has been refined down the centuries. There certainly something up with Georgiou. Did the Section 31 guy do something to her? Or is it something else? Stamets and Adira connecting was also a good aspect of the epsiode, especially the part where Stamets mentions when Culbur had passed away temporarily. Of course, he still doesn't know all about how Grey is appearing to her, but at least those Spore Drive Interface implants are gone. (But the follow up conversation with Culbur was unnecessary.)
Detmer's hesitation regarding the necessity of the Programable matter upgrades to the Bridge consoles was a good contrast to Rhys' enthusiasm for them. Admiral Vance calling out Burnham for her behaviour was done well too, as was Saru's decision to demote her from First Officer duties. (Maybe Nilsson is Saru's Number One now?) There were some small quibbles, but over all it's a good episode. 8.5/10.
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