Could be just PTSD. Remembering what happened on the Shenzhou
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x02 - "Far From Home"
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The whole point of going to the future was to take Control with them. But he died before they even went, making the whole thing pointless
I thought the whole point of going into the future was to prevent CONTROL from gathering the AI information within the Sphere Data & gaining Full Sentience.
CONTROL in Leland's body might've been dead, but we don't know if CONTROL had any backups hidden somewhere throughout the galaxy.
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What? They went to the future to protect the sphere data from control. Even if control had never boarded discovery and survived the battle, it wouldn't be able to upgrade without the data.
If you're going to be critical of the show at least get the fact rights.
No. The point was to get the data away from Control.
My rating went up a couple of slots this time.
Even the battery-powered wet vac?
I really wanted her to shoot him; he'd better not be back.
I thought this was supposed to be a huge sacrifice on the part of people attached to Burnham. With practically the whole crew there, it doesn't make sense-- seems more like somebody sacrificed them.
I’m a big fan of TOS, which is basically a Western in space, so it was interesting to see Discovery’s very literal spin on the genre, complete with swinging saloon doors. But the ep peaks at the beginning with the crash into the “parasitic ice” — an interesting threat, if a bit half-baked in explanation. The crash sequence was well done, and Saru made for a reassuring captain. But after they leave the ship, the story turns into a familiar Western trope, the frontier town under the thumb of a bad man. This story has been told countless times before, often better than here. What’s notable about this take, I guess, is that our good guys include someone every bit as bad as the bad man. Which is ... odd for a Trek show. But our evil heroine gets the job done when the good guys can’t, and Michelle Yeoh gets to serve up more ham.
Thematically, I thought the ep was all over the place. The show continues to apologize for not being Star Trekky enough, with endless speeches on Federation values and the importance of teamwork and all that, but then it shows us that, when the chips are down, what you really need is an evil buttkicker. Between Saru and Tilly’s ineffectiveness and that Starfleet true-believer waiting helplessly in an office for 40 years, the season so far hasn’t made much of an argument for the Federation’s approach, even as it insists it’s essential we make the Federation great again.
In the end, Saru’s finger-wagging goodness probably just sets the stage for more suffering down the line. If there’s no price to pay for his decision, this ep will feel like filler.
Along the way, the shows serves up some light torture, some bleeding orifices and some unnecessary gore — do we really need to see someone shoveling up Leland’s bloody remains? Poor “Gene” was trapped in the Lower Decks episode from hell. Someone get that guy some PPE.
Thematically, I thought the ep was all over the place. The show continues to apologize for not being Star Trekky enough, with endless speeches on Federation values and the importance of teamwork and all that, but then it shows us that, when the chips are down, what you really need is an evil buttkicker. Between Saru and Tilly’s ineffectiveness and that Starfleet true-believer waiting helplessly in an office for 40 years, the season so far hasn’t made much of an argument for the Federation’s approach, even as it insists it’s essential we make the Federation great again.
In the end, Saru’s finger-wagging goodness probably just sets the stage for more suffering down the line. If there’s no price to pay for his decision, this ep will feel like filler.
Along the way, the shows serves up some light torture, some bleeding orifices and some unnecessary gore — do we really need to see someone shoveling up Leland’s bloody remains? Poor “Gene” was trapped in the Lower Decks episode from hell. Someone get that guy some PPE.
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88, apparently. 72 not seriously uninjured. Not including Saru and Tilly. The crew complement was 136 in the first season, and over 200 in the second, so more than half left the ship. But still, they mustered 90 people on what seemed to be a near-suicide trip for no reason. I guess most of them just wanted to see the future.
More Michelle Yeoh, the better IMO!
I wouldn't mind jumping 1000 years into the future, the amount of things you can see / learn.
Maybe we'll actually have Warp Drive by then IRL.
I still can't believe StarFleet didn't re-introduce seat belts until the end of ST:NEM.
Poor Detmer went flying after the crash landing and is probably suffering from PTSD.
Poor Detmer went flying after the crash landing and is probably suffering from PTSD.
I don't check you on this. Tilly, sure, but Saru was quite effective once battle started. Starting a fight earlier wouldn't have worked for him, so I don't see how this proves anything.
If Spock and Kirk had been in that saloon rather than Saru and Tilly, I seriously believe that they'd give each other a knowing glance, and then jump into action, disarming the goons and knocking out Zara with their fists and/or pinch. I get where Saru was coming from, non-violence or whatnot, but Starfleet serves to protect the innocent. And protection does occasionally require fisticuffs. As we saw in Season 1, Saru should have no issue taking all of them out by himself with his Kelpien superpowers.
Maybe it's just being more realistic about things, but at the expense of excitement, adventure, and (yes) morality. Georgiou shouldn't have had to be the one to save them.
LMAO---You didn't understand it then mate.
Unfortunately, I just renewed my lease. So I can't jump ahead just yet.
I found this episode a little less interesting. Gave it a 7.
I enjoyed this a lot more than last week. And I was on the money about this episode holding back on Michael for the very end, as that allowed to see things not only from the crew's point of view but given them a chance to shine, and in the cases like with Detmer set up a few threads. By the time Michael appeared with a very beaming smile on her face, I smiled.
I agree WRT Spock and Kirk, but I'm not sure that Saru should be that confident in his ability to solo the situation. (Partly because I don't want Kelpien superpowers to rule out worrying about situations like this.)
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