Well if they don't, I don't expect you to admit that you were wrong.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x03 - "Point of Light"
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It's a Sybok thing. Only a very small part of the viewership cares and they can draw mental doodles in their head to work it out. It's just one of those "women can't command starships" bit of awkwardness that could be addressed but should probably just be swept under the rug. I don't think they'll spend any time on it. maybe a vague reference, no more than a sentence, that's it.
^ The DSC team is going out of their way to explain why Spock and Sarek don't mention Michael in the future, which is not something we need to have explained either; they're still doing it, though, and if they're willing to do that, I believe they will eventually explain the Klingon political and social situation of the 2260s in relation to the Klingon Augments.
Janice Lester was set up from the get-go, to be depicted as practically a Raving Lunatic.
I honestly don't understand why folks take anything she said in that episode to heart.
Especially that line about Female Captains.
She was exceedingly pizzed-off at Kirk and willing to say anything to discredit him.
I honestly don't understand why folks take anything she said in that episode to heart.
Especially that line about Female Captains.
She was exceedingly pizzed-off at Kirk and willing to say anything to discredit him.
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Exactly. And for those who bring up Kirk's reply to her as an acknowledgement; anyone who's had a Crazy Ex they run into again who starts ranting, you know the best response is to do what Kirk did to avoid old arguments - just pat them on the head and AGREE with them.
Those two things are not mutually exclusive.
but the first thing is something I'm actually interested in, the second thing is best never mentioned again and ignored for all eternity
Until we see the resolution of this Spock storyline, I'm not convinced that is the case. Spock and Burnham might end this season (and maybe the series) on generally good terms, as might Sarek and Burnham.
And even if they do end on good terms, I'm still fine with Spock and Sarek not mentioning her. Spock did the whole Amok Time thing and traveled back to Vulcan without ever mentioning Sarek and Amanda to his BFF Kirk until Journey to Babel -- and even then only because Kirk brought up the question by asking Spock if he wanted to visit his family.
So It could be seen to be very TOS Spock-like not to overtly talk about a foster sister as well. It could even be argued that maybe Spock had (hypothetically, from an in-universe standpoint) discussed Burnham with Kirk et al, but those discussions just weren't seen on TOS.
I seem to recall someone calling the idea of Ash and Voq being one in the same a "pet theory" and that I could see things in that light because that's what *I* wanted.
Obviously I was wrong, since Ash and Voq are totally separate characters.
Kirk didn't learn of the existence of Sybok for about 22 years after first meeting Spock. To quote McCoy in "Amok Time(TOS)" he's "as tight-lipped about it as an Aldebaran shellmouth."
The two men had served together aboard two different Enterprises and he'd even helped return Spock from the dead before he learned that he wasn't an only child. That's why not having Michael mentioned in other series and films is just fine. Spock was notoriously private about just about everything regarding his family and personal history so this will just be the next thing on that list.
The two men had served together aboard two different Enterprises and he'd even helped return Spock from the dead before he learned that he wasn't an only child. That's why not having Michael mentioned in other series and films is just fine. Spock was notoriously private about just about everything regarding his family and personal history so this will just be the next thing on that list.
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Yep. Plus, let's look at the flipside... how many times did Spock make reference to Sarek or Amanda after "Amok Time"?
Except for Star Treks IV, V and VI and "Unification, Part II(TNG)"? Not at all that I can remember!
Well, he mentions Sarek to his Kelvin Timeline self in Trek 2009 but that's it.
Well, he mentions Sarek to his Kelvin Timeline self in Trek 2009 but that's it.
Yes, and not only that, I don't feel it is necessarily the case that the DSC writers are setting up a particular reason that TOS Spock doesn't mention her.
I don't feel that this story so far -- in which we are (granted) being shown some friction between Burnham and Spock -- will conclude with that friction still existing, and being the reason that Spock never mentioned her. I don't think this current story will end with Spock telling Burnham, "Well, that was some adventure! But I'm still not talking to you." Then sulking off back to the Enterprise and his awaiting TOS adventures.
Maybe I'm wrong, and the writers are in fact setting up that future TOS "reason for not mentioning her" for us now, but I have a feeling I'm not wrong.
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Or it just might be because she never came up in conversation. My god, we see about 100 hours of Spock’s life in all of Star Trek. He lived 162 years. That’s like .007% of Spock’s life. If my work life were a TV show (god help us), and I had to pick 100 hours of my life to show, I can’t imagine mentioning my sister (whether or not we were close or not) would probably make the cut. Not to mention as has been proven time and again:
SPOCK IS A PRIVATE VULCAN!
ETA: I'm not saying its not strange and awfully convenient that Spock has a foster sister no one knew about before this. I'm just saying that it doesn't bother me. And its not outside of character for Spock not to reference it, at least in the time we saw onscreen prior to Disco.
He may be great fun at parties, telling all sorts of secrets. Except Sybok.
Never mention Sybok.
SPOCK IS A PRIVATE VULCAN!
ETA: I'm not saying its not strange and awfully convenient that Spock has a foster sister no one knew about before this. I'm just saying that it doesn't bother me. And its not outside of character for Spock not to reference it, at least in the time we saw onscreen prior to Disco.
He may be great fun at parties, telling all sorts of secrets. Except Sybok.
Never mention Sybok.
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They've flat-out stated that they feel a need to explain why Spock and Sarek never mention Michael.
That doesn't mean it ever makes it to the screen. Lots of things people want to do get tossed along the way.
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