I hear you. Heaven forefend that anyone in the very diverse UFP act anything other than completely homogenous...lots of groupthink going on here.
SO many missed opportunities, here...
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x12 - "Vaulting Ambition"
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I hear you. Heaven forefend that anyone in the very diverse UFP act anything other than completely homogenous...lots of groupthink going on here.
SO many missed opportunities, here...
I know, right? Michael knows the USS Defiant came from her future. So it's probable that Defiant would have a record of the Battle of the Binary Stars and Burnham's betrayal of Georgou. On top of that, she was just told Mirror-Burnham betrayed Mirror-Georgou.
One incident is a data point. Two is a pattern. Emp. Georgou was shown killing key people just for *hearing* something that *could* cause them to eventually betray her and the empire. And standing in front of her is someone who's betrayed her in every universe she's seen.
nah, I expanded the reasoning to include her first attempt of a bargain since that seemed unclear to you.
You know, I get why people are annoyed at the MU Lorca thing, but at the same time the character work has just not been strong enough in this series so far for me to feel like it "undermines" anything. Like, sure I'd prefer it if Lorca were a well-written antihero type with no twist, but in lieu of that I'm perfectly happy to accept schlocky plot twists. At least schlock is fun.
I wonder if the mirror Burnham actually had a personality?
I'm not sure why people think Discovery has done a poor job with its twists, as the show has quite literally seeded hints to help viewers predict the twists while successfully keeping the manner of their reveal a secret. That's fairly impressive, I think, especially given how the internet functions as a plot twist divination think tank.
I would be surprised if anyone--anyone--predicted that Ash would realize his identity by meeting himself, or that a Mirror Universe Georgiou would reveal Lorca.
Did anyone predict that Stamets would meet Culber in the network? Anyone? That Mirror!Stamets was trying to destroy it? Anyone? That we would eventually have scenes actively set in the network? Methinks there is some (understandable) seeing the hits and ignoring the misses here, perhaps.
And the twist only works once. Afterwards, for the show to be rewatchable, it's going to have to have told a story worth rewatching. I think Discovery for me is and has.
I would be surprised if anyone--anyone--predicted that Ash would realize his identity by meeting himself, or that a Mirror Universe Georgiou would reveal Lorca.
Did anyone predict that Stamets would meet Culber in the network? Anyone? That Mirror!Stamets was trying to destroy it? Anyone? That we would eventually have scenes actively set in the network? Methinks there is some (understandable) seeing the hits and ignoring the misses here, perhaps.
And the twist only works once. Afterwards, for the show to be rewatchable, it's going to have to have told a story worth rewatching. I think Discovery for me is and has.
The Emperor eats Kelpians and savagely murdered a half dozen of her own men directly in front of Burnham perhaps?
Several people on this forum did actually. I was really, really hoping they were wrong.
Yes, so I’ll pick her over the sexual predator thank you very much
Next season's main arc will be six episodes of Burnham following Saru around with a fork and knife.
That was my take. She purged--somehow--Voq's engrams or, at least, the core ones that comprised Voq's personality. Note that Tyler continued the Klingon prayer...in English, before trailing off into unconsciousness. My guess is that there might be some memory traces that are left which more properly belong to Voq but that could not be completely destroyed because Tyler's personality--by L'Rell's own admission--was synthesized from the original. Voq sort of "filled in the blanks" for the synthetic Tyler. There was enough there to subvert--or so House Mokai thought--but not enough to fully take over Tyler/Voq. That tells me that the technique was experimental and they were not counting on it succeeding. In the end, L'Rell banished whatever was left of Voq, save a few onesies and twosies.
That means that Tyler--or, rather synthetic Tyler--can continue but, I'll bet good money on it, will have some inclinations and perhaps even memories that are more properly Voq's.
Which is why, realistically speaking, he shouldn't be on active duty.
Plus they hinted at it on After Trek
they are eaten properly with chopsticks.
Jonathan Frakes was on after trek. Worth watching for those who haven't seen it.
You'd pick a cannibal mass murderer over a slightly pervy guy?
Did Jason Issacs show up in person or on skype? They said last week he would be on, but then vanished from the promos. Guessing a mistake or he couldn't make it.
...which is why she's Specialist Burnham now, so...yes.
The real answer to this is that she's the writer's designated POV character. She has to be correct, eventually. The problem is, she's so terribly flawed that, even when she is correct, I have no desire to root for her. It comes across as arbitrary and undeserved, done simply through writer fiat.
Again, making her a mutineer was the worst possible narrative decision they've made thus far.
