Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x05 - "Choose Your Pain"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Oct 15, 2017.

?

Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Absolutely fantastic!

    18.3%
  2. 9

    28.4%
  3. 8

    21.6%
  4. 7

    13.4%
  5. 6

    4.0%
  6. 5

    6.4%
  7. 4

    3.0%
  8. 3

    2.4%
  9. 2

    0.3%
  10. 1 - I sling mudd at it!

    2.1%
  1. Vger23

    Vger23 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2014
    Location:
    New England
    You're so right!!! WORST SHOW EVAR!!!1!
     
    Kemaiku likes this.
  2. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    Borgminister likes this.
  3. eschaton

    eschaton Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    Still not as bad as the beacon in the first episode - which apparently just gave out very bright light - being visible from many light years away instantaneously.
     
    Kemaiku likes this.
  4. Crazy Eddie

    Crazy Eddie Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2006
    Location:
    Your Mom
    [​IMG]
     
  5. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    Which would require those ships to time travel back to the battle of the binary stars, if the signal took twenty to 50 years to reach the notice of some houses living 20 to 50 light years away.
     
    Mad Jack Wolfe likes this.
  6. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    They said in the episode that it wasn't only viable light being given off IIRC.

    Remember that whatever it was, it was also effecting the Shenzhou's systems.
     
    Grendelsbayne likes this.
  7. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    Cool typo. :)

    Obviously the Beacon of Kahless, was a subspace beacon, we know this, however... Was all that light necessary, an unavoidable biproduct or purely decorative?
     
    Mad Jack Wolfe likes this.
  8. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Tomorrow Never Knows Premium Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2001
    Location:
    Here There and Everywhere
    According to dialog in the episode it's an "electromagnetic sub-space wave form".
     
    cultcross and SpocksOddSocks like this.
  9. eschaton

    eschaton Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    But didn't Sarek specifically refer to it as "a new star in the sky?" That would imply having seen it visually, not just having it detected via subspace.
     
    Kemaiku likes this.
  10. Borgminister

    Borgminister Admiral Moderator

    Joined:
    May 30, 2001
    Location:
    California
    Poetic license? And aren't stars "visible" with many techniques?
     
  11. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Well it may have mimicked a star on ship sensors.
     
  12. Ometiklan

    Ometiklan Captain Captain

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2003
    Location:
    Silver Spring, MD
    Others have covered the in-episode dialog that explains this, but I will also point out Star Trek VI's explosion of Praxis. Which would never realistically threaten anyone outside of the Qo'nos system, but in-dialog they too indicate that it somehow initiated a subspace wavefront. So Discovery is fudging nothing that hasn't been fudged before.
     
  13. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    1. If the beacon is mobile, how does anyone know where to look for it?

    2. If the beacon's wave moves like a radio wave, continue travelling for thousands of years (but unlike a radio wave) without degrading, how are the klingons (not that they have any onus to) keep a lid on the larger universe to the prewarp civilizations out there?
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2017
    Mad Jack Wolfe likes this.
  14. Mr. Nova

    Mr. Nova Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2015
    Here's a thought. What happened to Lorca between the "three lights" scene and the time he was dumped back in his cell? Ash Tyler isn't the only one with gaps in his experience. Hmmm.:confused:
     
  15. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    Multiple Uteruses.

    L'Rell might be carrying Voq's baby, Ash's baby, Mudd's baby and Lorca's baby.

    Yes, Ash and Voq are the same person, but if their sperms are constructed from very different testes, then Ash's sperm would be incompletely Klingon, unlike Voq's sperms which remain Klingon.
     
    SpocksOddSocks likes this.
  16. Borgminister

    Borgminister Admiral Moderator

    Joined:
    May 30, 2001
    Location:
    California
    Brotha from another motha--sista from another mista! :lol:
     
    137th Gebirg and Gonzo like this.
  17. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2001
    Location:
    The Warped Sector of the Demented Quadrant
    This thread suddenly got very, very weird and disturbing.

    Well done, guys.
     
  18. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    Admiral Doctor Katrina Cornwall, if she is the big cheese, is a
    Psychiatrist
    which means that the strategies that she is using to crush and repel the Klingon invasion will be more wholistic, focussing on Klingon
    bahaviour and psychology
    more so than just ships and soldiers blowing #### up targets of opportunity.

    :angryrazz: :angryrazz: :angryrazz: :devil:
     
    Feron likes this.
  19. cultcross

    cultcross Every lie incurs a debt to the truth Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2001
    Location:
    The EU still
    He said 'reports' of a new star, which doesn't imply having seen it. It suggests someone registered it and told him. Bloody quickly, I'll grant, but then he was also stood right by his holophone when Burnham rung, so he's not a dude to waste time.
     
    Feron, Grendelsbayne and Gonzo like this.
  20. SpocksOddSocks

    SpocksOddSocks Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    May 30, 2015
    Location:
    SpocksOddSocks
    I just did a quick look for threads fit the previous episodes and noticed that so far this one had the greatest number if posts by the time it was unpinned.

    Perhaps that in itself is a good indication on the popularity of the episode in itself, grading aside.

    I remember hearing Jason Isaacs saying in interviews that he hoped to see fans beating themselves and each other up on the forums about the show (or words to that effect)... I think he's definitely getting his wish.
     
    indranee, gblews, Nyotarules and 4 others like this.