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News Star Trek: Discovery – Adhering To Canon

If the writers consider it so important that they are nixing story ideas because of it, then they obviously believe it is super important to audiences. And, they're wrong.
First of all, what makes you think you can speak for "audiences" in general? Second, surely it's possible that writers have other motivations besides just pleasing the largest number of viewers. (If that were their concern, they'd be execs, not writers.)

You also failed to mention that Beyond did the worst at the box office. And may have killed the film franchise.
Again, who except the bean-counters cares how it does financially? Creatively, it was the best of the three JJ-verse films. (Which may be damning with faint praise... but still, it at least had moments that evoked the feeling of a genuine Trek story.)

Why is it so important what they call it? Are you saying you would like it more if they said it was a reboot? In the end what does it matter if they call it a continuation or a reboot? Doesn't really change the end product, does it?
Yeah, it kinda does.

ST: Discovery is clearly not intended to be a standalone TV series. If it were, it would be nigh unto incomprehensible to audiences. It is situated in a pre-existing fictional reality, and it relies heavily on audience familiarity with that reality. (Consider even the largely disposable desert scene at the beginning of the pilot. Were it not for prior familiarity, much of that would have had no meaning whatsoever, from the throwaway reference to "general order one" to, especially, the delta symbol tracked in the sand.)

If you're going to work in a pre-existing fictional reality, then it just makes sense (to my mind, at least) to do your best to be consistent with what's already been established in that reality. That's all that continuity is about. To do otherwise is, creatively speaking, an attempt to have your cake and eat it too. It's saying "I'll play by the rules as long as they're to my advantage, but as soon as I don't like them I'll break them." It betrays a lack of artistic integrity.

The need for "explanations" for every change in make up, costumes and sets leads us to things like "Affliction". Unneeded, unnecessary and usually unsatisfying.
Clearly a YMMV moment. To my mind, "Affliction" (together with "Divergence") was terrific, and did a solid job of answering a previously unanswered story question that had been bothering me (and obviously, many others) for years. Yay! (Now, the overall series that story fell in was arguably unnecessary and unsatisfying, but that's another discussion entirely.)
 
I'm not spreading any falsehoods, that is what I have read! Plus yes the quoting bits went a bit awry didn't they!
JB
You are probably talking about the stuff said in this video (below, starting at about 9:52) or things people have written about the information in this video. The problem is, there is no evidence supporting the notion that since JJ Abrams owning the look of the "Kelvin Universe timeline", and because apparently some people think the "DSC's look" is a copy of the Kelvin timeline look, that means that DSC was made under a license from Bad Robot Productions.

The guy in this video can say what he wants, but there is no reason to blindly believe that he states facts (i.e., without any corroborating evidence, it seems he is making it all up based on assumptions and innuendo).

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True! That's probably where I saw it but it's vanished now! Plus if we don't believe people in the know then how can we ever accept any account of anything ever again?
JB
 
The problem is, there is no evidence supporting the notion that since JJ Abrams owning the look of the "Kelvin Universe timeline", and because apparently some people think the "DSC's look" is a copy of the Kelvin timeline look, that means that DSC was made under a license from Bad Robot Productions.
You'd think Bad Robot would be in the credits for DSC if that were true.

In fact, if it were true it would be a legal requirement that they be credited.

Again, we're talking about people who like to pretend we're being paid by CBS to undermine them.
 
I don’t think Bad Robot it credited in Star Trek online and they use Kelvin Timeline stuff.

Though I think Paramount is credited so that might cover it.

Plus the restrictions might just be for live action productions not other media
 
I don’t think Bad Robot it credited in Star Trek online and they use Kelvin Timeline stuff.

Though I think Paramount is credited so that might cover it.

Plus the restrictions might just be for live action productions not other media

Paramount isn't credited. Secret Hideout production is but Alex Kurtzman worked on the show.
 
I never understood ME's logic. CBS is the original license holder. Even if they wanted to make a TV series in the Kelvinverse, they don't need anybody's permission to do it. JJ Abrams may be contracted to work on the TV series if it happened but CBS doesn't need a a "license" for their own IP.
 
Nailed it. Besides, why whine and complain about canon? Get busy drafting fan fiction to plug all the holes :D
But here's the problem... Fan fiction is usually what ignores canon of anything.

I'd be fine with this show if they set it in the early 25th century and removed Sarek and tweaked the timeline on the Klingons. It's the fact that this is nothing like any prior Trek and they're saying it happened in the Prime universe between The Cage (2254) and Where No Man has gone before (2265) but it ignores the realities of both of those episodes and the rest of TOS is my problem.

I think the show is visually good, if placed in the right time. Hell, if they just called the show Discovery and just said "From the producers of Star Trek" I would consider it decent.
 
after watching the episodes

, I have to say they adhered to canon as well as any other Star Trek series.
Which is to say lip service.
How are the uniforms canonical? Or all Klingons being hairless? Or the million other things large and small that have been ignored from canon that are in this show?

Why couldn't they use the JJVerse uniforms with a different collar, for instance. I could go on and on.
 
How are the uniforms canonical? Or all Klingons being hairless? Or the million other things large and small that have been ignored from canon that are in this show?

Why couldn't they use the JJVerse uniforms with a different collar, for instance. I could go on and on.

I meant the lore. Not the visuals.
 
So TNG, DS9 and Voyager should have all ignored each other?

They did most of the time anyways. Not sure what the loss would have been? Harry Kim and Tom Paris on DS9? Or those horrible episodes with Barclay and Troi?
 
Having an interconnected universe makes the show better, feels bigger.

The shows should be good in their own right. Not dependent on outside material.

Honestly, most interconnected shows end up boring me. The Man in the High Castle, Mad Men and The Handmaid's Tale didn't need to be part of bigger universes to be entertaining.
 
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