News Star Trek: Discovery – Adhering To Canon

[fireproof78]

TV is a visual medium. When I watch Star Trek, I watch all of it. The story, the sets, the actors. I don't get where somehow one part is more important than another part?

If the sets aren't important, then everyone should be happy with the actors doing the stories on a blank stage.

I would watch that, but I'm a theater geek, and books on tape and the like-there is little visual other than what I can create.

For me, characters make up the most important part, followed by story and then the rest. I can appreciate good visuals, but not nearly as much as I enjoy relatable and realized characters that make sense in the context of their world.

Visuals are like pizza toppings. Good, but not entirely necessary to have good pizza.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Discovery and canon, in a nutshell:

"Data's the first android to serve in Starfleet."

They're doing whatever they want.

 

[T'Bonz]

Don't get personal guys. It's only a TV show. If you get hot and bothered over something that hasn't even aired yet, it would be wiser to log off for a while.

Pissing matches aren't going to be tolerated when things get really busy in here. Make your point(s) and if people don't agree, move on to something else.

 

[Michael]

Discovery and canon, in a nutshell:

"Data's the first android to serve in Starfleet."

They're doing whatever they want.

You're just taking a guess, though, that this is actually an android*.

* Which would actually be a gynoid, since it appears to be female.

 

[Gov Kodos]

Canon is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Canon is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad. Are you sure your canon is remembered correctly? Your ears are green.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

Why not show an Romulan talking with T'Kumva in a Klingon scene? Just because the UFP doesn't know much about the Romulans, doesn't mean it's the same with the Klingons. It's more likely the opposite, based on their later shortliving alliance...

 

[F. King Daniel]

You're just taking a guess, though, that this is actually an android*.

* Which would actually be a gynoid, since it appears to be female.

If she's a human female crewmember in a BDSM gimp mask and not a gynoid, that's okay, canon-wise.

 

[johnnybear]

This isn't new, we've known it was in the Prime Universe for a year or so now.
Nah it's not! Whatever they say it's part of JJs universe or a separate one we haven't encountered before! It's ridiculous to have a date set before Kirk's time and a ship and crew dressed in more futuristic uniforms because the makers are not allowed to use those outfits and the original Klingons in their show!
Didn't we have enough of that cobblers with enterprise?
JB

They just want to hammer it in now.

Doctor Who - revived by fans, still running 12 years later.

And that has been a disaster for fans of the original series, maybe not for the BBC though, who after many years now love the show!
JB

 

[Michael]

If she's a human female crewmember in a BDSM gimp mask and not a gynoid, that's okay, canon-wise.

Well, that's a possibility too. Seriously though, to me she (it?) looks more like some sort of cyborg, an organic lifeform enhanced with synthetic body parts. Whatever it is, I really like the look.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

You're just taking a guess, though, that this is actually an android*.

* Which would actually be a gynoid, since it appears to be female.

Could it be a New Human?

 

[Tuskin38]

Discovery and canon, in a nutshell:

"Data's the first android to serve in Starfleet."

They're doing whatever they want.

Cyborg or less sophisticated robot

 

[Tuskin38]

things

You need to work on your quoting skills

because the makers are not allowed to use those outfits and the original Klingons in their show!

That isn’t true at all, they’re allowed to use anything from Star Trek, the series is owned and made by CBS.

Stop spreading that rumour

 

[BillJ]

But don't change the costumes or sets.

But I've never actually said that. I wanted something more aesthetically similar to what came before but understand you can't just bring the elements unchanged forward. Or, if they wanted to let their imaginations run wild, which is what they seemed to have done, call it what it is: a reboot.

 

[Michael]

But I've never actually said that. I wanted something more aesthetically similar to what came before but understand you can't just bring the elements unchanged forward. Or, if they wanted to let their imaginations run wild, which is what they seemed to have done, call it what it is: a reboot.

Why is it so important what they call it? Are you saying you would like it more if they said it was a reboot? In the end what does it matter if they call it a continuation or a reboot? Doesn't really change the end product, does it?

 

[BillJ]

Doesn't really change the end product, does it?

It does to a degree, because then we don't get comments like "it'll seem like we're breaking canon, but we'll fix it later on" non-sense. Or, "we meet in the middle between story and canon".

It is like @cultcross said, they're trying to have their cake and eat it too. Much of the time, it doesn't end up well.

 

[Michael]

It does to a degree, because then we don't get comments like "it'll seem like we're breaking canon, but we'll fix it later on" non-sense. Or, "we meet in the middle between story and canon".

It is like @cultcross said, they're trying to have their cake and eat it too. Much of the time, it doesn't end up well.

But still, nothing of what they are now saying in terms of how they approach adhering to canon is really changing what ends up on the screen. They could say a lot of things for a lot of different reasons – to meet the expectations of a large chunk of the fanbase perhaps – but they might put out a different thing. Personally, I couldn't care less about breaking canon or whatever, so whatever they are saying about the subject doesn't really phase me. I'm just going to judge the show on what's actually in it. If that mean looking at it as a reboot, I have no trouble doing just that. My guess is that it will really be a thing it-between. It will mostly adhere to established canon (or better, continuity) in broad strokes when it comes to story points, but reboot (or better, reimagine) the look of it.

EDIT: So in other words, they will mostly just do as all the Trek shows have done in the past.

 

[JoeP]

Discovery and canon, in a nutshell:

"Data's the first android to serve in Starfleet."

They're doing whatever they want.

Clearly Daft Punk is still a thing in the future.

 

[fireproof78]

Clearly Daft Punk is still a thing in the future.

Its classical music.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

You know, I just don't buy the resistance to maintaining canon that so many espouse on this board. The more protests I see, the more posts of "I don't care if they give the finger to canon, as long as it makes for a good story!", the more I think it's done out of desire to be contrarian and nothing else.

Unless you ignore Trek from 1969 onward, you can't claim to be a fan of the franchise without acknowledging canon. TAS (somewhat), TMP (moreso), and certainly TWOK onward made the decision to have in-Universe continuity. It's been part of what makes Star Trek for over 40 years.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Warp 6 in Discovery is 392.498c. That's the TNG warp scale (rendered as 392c in most manuals and the Star Trek Encyclopedia), not the (supposed) TOS one, which would be 216c.

Of course, Trek has always used speed-of-plot, but me thinks they're going to regret putting the actual velocity on-screen.