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Star Trek Continues - To Boldly Go (Parts I & II)

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I enjoyed it. Yeah, you can make the argument it doesn't match up with what would have been done as a finale in 1970, and you would likely be right. But, really from the getgo with McKennah, it never was what they would have done in 1969-1970. And, its a nice go-between TOS and TMP, which I think is what they were going for. As much as I didn't like McKennah, I wish she would have had a happier ending, but it was necessary, I think. As was Smith. That storyline was one that surprised me in a very good way. And overall, the episode works for me. My one complaint was that, and maybe I'm forgetting something here, but I don't feel as though they adequately set up McCoy's departure from Starfleet. Felt like it came out of nowhere (other than that's what had to happen to match up with TMP).

Still, very well done.
 
Campe98 said:
My one complaint was that, and maybe I'm forgetting something here, but I don't feel as though they adequately set up McCoy's departure from Starfleet. Felt like it came out of nowhere (other than that's what had to happen to match up with TMP).
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I think they needed a scene with McCoy and M'Benga in sickbay overrun with wounded during the battle with the Espers, with systems failing and too many dying before Bones could save them. That would've provided a bit more motivation for his decision to retire.
 
Firebird said:
I think they needed a scene with McCoy and M'Benga in sickbay overrun with wounded during the battle with the Espers, with systems failing and too many dying before Bones could save them. That would've provided a bit more motivation for his decision to retire.
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Or if they wanted to go with Joanna as a reason, at least mentioning her, or having the Espers make McCoy see his daughter suddenly and inexplicably on the ship dying. Anything would have been better than the little detail into the reason he wanted to leave Starfleet.
 
Warped9 said:
McCoy has felt like an afterthought throughout much of STC, much like how the Kirk/Spock/McCoy dynamic was disrupted by inserting McKennah.
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McCoy was a truly major player in the one where he and Kirk were transported (mentally) to the American Civil War.
 
A great ending to a great series. I was sad at the end.

With STC now over and STNV over a year ago I feel like we are seeing the end of an era with these full length fan productions. Thanks to Vic and James for all work they have done in their respective series. Thanks for all the memories...
 
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Tom said:
A great ending to a great series. I was sad at the end.

With STC now over and STNV over a year ago I feel like we are seeing the end of an era with these full length fan productions. Thanks to Vic and James for all work they have done in their respective series. Thanks for all the memories...
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Sums up my feelings exactly, we have been spoilt since the beginning of this millennium with New Voyages, Continues, Intrepid, Farragut, Exeter, REnegades, Of Gods and Men and all the other high quality fan productions over the years!!
 
Campe98 said:
I enjoyed it. Yeah, you can make the argument it doesn't match up with what would have been done as a finale in 1970, and you would likely be right. But, really from the getgo with McKennah, it never was what they would have done in 1969-1970. And, its a nice go-between TOS and TMP, which I think is what they were going for. As much as I didn't like McKennah, I wish she would have had a happier ending, but it was necessary, I think. As was Smith. That storyline was one that surprised me in a very good way. And overall, the episode works for me. My one complaint was that, and maybe I'm forgetting something here, but I don't feel as though they adequately set up McCoy's departure from Starfleet. Felt like it came out of nowhere (other than that's what had to happen to match up with TMP).

Still, very well done.
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I too expected a little more "drama" about McCoy's departure but then it reminded me of a lot of "end of tours" in the military where people just went their separate ways. It felt more like that and it worked for me.
 
Samuel said:
McCoy was a truly major player in the one where he and Kirk were transported (mentally) to the American Civil War.
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True, but it felt almost like an obligatory outlier, knowing that beyond this they were going to have McKenna serve that role.
 
Remember that despite the widespread impression Star Trek fans have the Kirk/Spock/McCoy relationship was not central to many episodes.

The ones that come to mind are "The Empath", "Bread & Circuses", "The Ultimate Computer", "Obsession" and "Amok Time"
 
Warped9 said:
Okay, here it is.

Sorry, but this stunk. It was just pure TNG style fan service. Nothing but callouts and conecting the dots.

And Bixby was pretty much on target with his predictions.
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^ THIS is why fandom can be its own worse enemy. Highly critical of a FAN FILM PRODUCTION that had to wrap things up quickly (and, IMO, prematurely), in light of the new CBS guidelines on fan film productions, is being pretty salty. At least STC was able to conclude its project. You can't say that with many of the fan films out there, or even the professional productions. And sadly, we will never get this sort of thing, ever. Thus, in light of everything that has taken place during the past couple of years, I say this of this final outing of STC: BRAVO. You made it, guys, and I wish you all best of luck to your future endeavors. Clearly, the future is open to more possibilities for you guys to work in the industry, if you want to. Not a perfect, or preferable, way of going out, but I did enjoy the journey.

Sorry for calling this poster out, but...REALLY? Sigh. SMH.
 
When I think of Star Trek fan productions I think of one where a fire fight was going on between Starfleet personnel and a group of Jem'hadar. One of the Starfleet guys raises his phaser rifle to fire but instead a warning flashes across the control panel.

"CGI budget exhausted"
 
it was ok...I agree with most of the comments, I just feel Spock is being painted as a fool, and McCoy was hiding below decks.
I doubt you would be considered the best first officer in the fleet or for a command of your own if you were unable to deal with the risks. I know from TWOK that Spock never took the Kobiashi Maru, but c'mon.

Maybe if McCoy and McKenna beamed over, the non-turned husband was injured and needed help and McKenna went as a nurse to try to reason with them. (Maybe have M'benga die right next to McCoy).

My only question is if Spock was developing feelings McKenna, would not a projection of McKenna have been more tempting distraction than the Romulan commander?
 
Sure seems like lots of nitpicking going on.

Note as shown during the major battle no matter how great the espers powers were they still lacked the knowledge and experience. Of course then again Gary Mitchell actually read and gained a lot of knowledge that way. He talked about going through half the ships library in a day.

I must say that Kipleigh Brown (Smith) never looked hotter.

Overall though, the loss of FOUR of Starfleets Constitution class ships to the espers is the kind of staggering losses that would reverate through the Federation for a long time.
 
Brilliant ending to STC. "To Boldy Go" , for myself, is as good as any TOS episode ever was and is a perfect prequel to Star Trek:The Motion Picture.

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it was ok...I agree with most of the comments, I just feel Spock is being painted as a fool, and McCoy was hiding below decks.
I doubt you would be considered the best first officer in the fleet or for a command of your own if you were unable to deal with the risks. I know from TWOK that Spock never took the Kobiashi Maru, but c'mon.

Maybe if McCoy and McKenna beamed over, the non-turned husband was injured and needed help and McKenna went as a nurse to try to reason with them. (Maybe have M'benga die right next to McCoy).

My only question is if Spock was developing feelings McKenna, would not a projection of McKenna have been more tempting distraction than the Romulan commander?
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I think the point either way is that Spock was being compromised ina variety of ways by his emotions in this story, at least that’s a logical way to see it, and which is ultimately what pushes him to Kohlinar. It works well with TMP overall.
 
Boring.

Utterly boring.

Kirk doesn't drive any of the action, has no personal story and no stake in anything. Nothing drives him toward his decision to step down from the captain's chair. He makes no decisions in the episode that pushes him over the edge. He just does stuff. Hell, he doesn't even order Smith to her death. She volunteers! STC's Kirk misses the mark when it comes to the actual Jim Kirk character.

Spock's relationship with Troi-redux is out of left field, much like Troi's romance with Worf in "All Good Things..." One thing that I loved about IDW's version of the final voyage is that Spock makes a decision that puts Kirk in danger. And thus this drives him back to Vulcan because he nearly cost Kirk his life and he couldn't deal with those feelings. Once again, focusing on the Kirk-Spock relationship built in the show.

But McKenna is shoehorned to give some emotional weight to Spock, Kirk and the episode. Yet I felt nothing because the story does nothing except a small scene in part one. The script didn't do the work to get the viewer to care. A tear-jerker moment that doesn't illicit a tear. Which is a shame since Michele Specht is the best, most naturalistic actor in the STC troupe.

McCoy is a non-entity in the whole thing. If they wanted to do a connect-the-canon to TMP, then this should've been a voyage that strained the relationship of Kirk-Spock-McCoy. A story that drove each man into where they end up at the beginning of TMP. When McCoy says he's leaving Starfleet at the end, it feels like an afterthought. A checkmark.

In fact, the entire episode felt like a checkmark. A list of things that needed to be done. Stuff happens but nothing of substance.
 
dswynne1 said:
^ THIS is why fandom can be its own worse enemy. Highly critical of a FAN FILM PRODUCTION that had to wrap things up quickly (and, IMO, prematurely), in light of the new CBS guidelines on fan film productions, is being pretty salty. At least STC was able to conclude its project. You can't say that with many of the fan films out there, or even the professional productions. And sadly, we will never get this sort of thing, ever. Thus, in light of everything that has taken place during the past couple of years, I say this of this final outing of STC: BRAVO. You made it, guys, and I wish you all best of luck to your future endeavors. Clearly, the future is open to more possibilities for you guys to work in the industry, if you want to. Not a perfect, or preferable, way of going out, but I did enjoy the journey.

Sorry for calling this poster out, but...REALLY? Sigh. SMH.
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Sorry, but when you make assertions of “professionalism” as the STC crew has done since the beginning and put your work out in public then you are open to fair criticism.

Robert Sawyer is a good writer and a professional, and I have enjoyed much of his work, but this was plainly not good work on his part. STC’s past few episodes and particularly these last two are pretty much the fannish work I expect from enthusiastic fans but not professionals.

STC has already hit high notes in their productions, but evidently they couldn’t sustain it.
 
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