Star Trek Continues, Episode 4...

[BoredShipCapt'n]

Here is a cool interview with Colin Baker from Phoenix Comicon last month. He almost revealed who his STC character is, but not quite. It also includes his video segment for NASA's Orion program called "I'm on board"... I'm glad he wasn't.

I like the beard. Hope he still has it for his role in STC. Very distinguished, which is good if he's playing some sort of political leader.

^ I think you're taking that joke too literally.


The leader of his nation sounds promising. Let's hope that his "nation" isn't made up of Klingons or Romulans.

Well, James Kerwin has told us that we meet a new alien race in Ep 4, so presumably that'll be his nation.

 

[Zaminhon]

Ah, Orion was a successful mission, I was thinking of the unmanned Cygnus ISS resupply vehicle that exploded on launch a few weeks earlier...glad Colin wasn't on board that one.

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

Apparently they will only premiere the episode during a major con before releasing it to the public.

Regarding this, I think their past practice has been to release the episode on the web at midnight the same night it is shown at the con.

 

[Shawnster]

Lemme say this about TAS, because I may have been too harsh on it in the podcast. I actually really liked the writing on TAS. Very creative, great stories, great TOS themes. I have nothing "against" it. The problem, though, is that there's really no way to rectify it with STC. We're trying to finish up the five-year mission through 2269-2270. Chekov is on board (unlike in TAS), Chapel is NOT on board (unlike in TAS -- she likely wouldn't have been on the ship in 2269-70 if she went to med school and became a doctor by TMP in 2272), there is no Arex or M'Ress, etc. So reconciling the two is difficult if not impossible.

Again, I like TAS; all I'm saying is that, for OUR purposes, we mainly have to ignore it.

But this doesn't have to be the case. At least, not for the reasons cited above. Chekov wasn't in the entire first season (yet Khan remembers his face, LOL), Sulu was absent from a few episodes and so was Uhura. If we count TAS, Kirk was absent from one episode. So, it's quite possible for M'Ress and Arex to be on the Enterprise, yet not in the episode. At the rate these episodes are produced, we can't realistically expect another 2 whole seasons worth of stories anyway.

Actually, instead of viewing Phase 2 and STC as competitors, if you accept them both, you may have enough episodes, along with TAS to count for seasons 4 and 5. TOS was never shown in "chronological" order as far as stardates is concerned, anyway. Just ignore the continuity differences between Phase 2 and STC, or imagine that TAS and STC happen before the refit seen in Phase 2 and you can accept it all as one big happy fleet... er... story.

Seasons 4 and 5 needn't exist in a vacuum. Just think of M'Ress and Arex as having been reassigned. STC could even take place "before" TAS for that matter.

 

[Warped9]

Agreed. Yes, Arex and M'ress could be conveniently overlooked.

 

[Zaminhon]

What I believe STC is trying to do is to put the show in a time capsule and transport the entire production back to 1969- 1971, chronologically TAS doesn't even exist yet and maybe wouldn't even exist if there was a season 4 and 5. I think that is the main difference between STC and P2/NV, which doesn't place that "limitation" on itself.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

What I believe STC is trying to do is to put the show in a time capsule and transport the entire production back to 1969- 1971, chronologically TAS doesn't even exist yet and maybe wouldn't even exist if there was a season 4 and 5. I think that is the main difference between STC and P2/NV, which doesn't place that "limitation" on itself.

There are allusions in STC to TNG that are incongruous to this time capsule approach. I personally don't have a problem with the allusions; I'm simply pointing out that a pure time capsule interpretation is untenable because of it.

 

[Maurice]

What I believe STC is trying to do is to put the show in a time capsule and transport the entire production back to 1969- 1971, chronologically TAS doesn't even exist yet and maybe wouldn't even exist if there was a season 4 and 5. I think that is the main difference between STC and P2/NV, which doesn't place that "limitation" on itself.

Exeter did pretty much the same thing.

 

[Zaminhon]

There are allusions in STC to TNG that are incongruous to this time capsule approach. I personally don't have a problem with the allusions; I'm simply pointing out that a pure time capsule interpretation is untenable because of it.

I agree, it's not perfect. I just hope they try to keep it on a general level rather than referencing specific characters. For example, referencing the Caitian or Edosian species without specifically naming M'Ress or Arex. Still, it's a very sketchy line drawn in the sand.

 

[Marsden]

Would it be bad if they showed up, or just too expensive?

 

[Warped9]

Would it be bad if they showed up, or just too expensive?

You'd be getting into an area that simply didn't exist in 1960. Arex and M'ress would need to be animated with cgi and that simply was a far off fantasy in 1969. TOS could have shown us another Vulcan or Andorian Starfleet officer or something else within the grasp of the make-up department, but nothing as exotic as what was seen on TAS.

 

[Zaminhon]

Nakia Burrise has posted a few pics with the STC cast and crew on her FB page. Looks like filming has already begun.

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

Nakia Burrise has posted a few pics with the STC cast and crew on her FB page. Looks like filming has already begun.

Cool! Evidently they were already shooting on Tuesday. That's what Michele Specht had implied in her interview.

Gabriela Fresquez has been announced as a guest in Ep 4.

 

[Zaminhon]

The women guest actors are definitely out-numbering the guys... looking forward to finding out what's up.

Yeah.. TWSS

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

Closed set! We're implementing the Orgianian Peace Treaty!

 

[Zaminhon]

Doug Drexler has a pretty cool post about STC on his FB page. Among other things, he mentioned that he's putting the finishing touches on the Enterprise shots for Ep4. That's pretty fast work.

 

[GSchnitzer]

Doug Drexler has a pretty cool post about STC on his FB page. Among other things, he mentioned that he's putting the finishing touches on the Enterprise shots for Ep4. That's pretty fast work.

Star Trek New Voyages/Phase II was fortunate to have secured Doug's VFX services in our first three episodes. We owe much of our earliest success to Doug's high-quality work. We've actually been fortunate to have all our many and various VFX artists over the past decade.

 

[Warped9]

Doug Drexler has a pretty cool post about STC on his FB page. Among other things, he mentioned that he's putting the finishing touches on the Enterprise shots for Ep4. That's pretty fast work.

He has also mentioned the possibility that he might remake the opening credits sequences so the ship looks and moves more like it did in the classic opening.

 

[Zaminhon]

Star Trek New Voyages/Phase II was fortunate to have secured Doug's VFX services in our first three episodes. We owe much of our earliest success to Doug's high-quality work. We've actually been fortunate to have all our many and various VFX artists over the past decade.

It's a testament to the quality of these projects to have such top talent donating their time.

 

[Zaminhon]

He.s also mentioned the possibility that he might remake the opening credits sequences so the ship looks and moves more like it did in the classic opening.

I wonder what explains the fact that he's almost done with the VFX? They haven't even finished shooting. Was everything set up and storyboarded in pre-production? They must be a machine to have that level of organization and detail. The way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if Ep4 is ready for release in mid-February.