Spoilers STAR TREK BEYOND
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Again: Characters are freakin' Batman and Superman! Also, we have Ben Affleck, Will Smith, Margot Robbie. That's characters for starters. Spectacle should be obvious. Even you don't disagree. Story? Meh. Wasn't good. Might be a reason both of them somewhat underperformed.
Were those movies "good" in any sense? Depends on personal taste (I didn't like them). But out of the "characters, spectacle, story"-triumvirat, they had the two most important ones. Big time. The new Trek movies stumble on all of them (at least from a shallow outside non-Trekkie perspective).
Characters were a draw for the first one (09 - the first time we see iconic characters on the screen for decades). Those characters ween't new anymore for Into Darkness, but it had Benedict Cumberbatch to make up for it a little. Beyond? Had nothing more to offer than the first two. Spectacle? By-the-numbers blockbuster mayhem, for all of them. Nothing special or to compete with the top-movies, but mostly o.k. Story? The weakest part of the first two movies. Basically a so-so on overall accounts, and that's a pretty good summation on how they ended up at the box office.
You may have a point with the characters thing. This Halloween I went as Captain Kirk and no one, neither the kids nor their parents, could identify me by name. I got a "Star Trek Man" and a "Picard," inexplicably. Kirk/Spock/McCoy are iconic, but not like Batman and Superman, unfortunately. Granted, right now superheroes are having a moment.
You gotta do the Shat intonation if you want to do Kirk. It gives that character life.
Funnily enough I think those people might have been able to identify you if you were going as "redshirt"
Especially as a Halloween-centric "dead redshirt".
I wonder if a starship under water drove the purists as batty as it did in Star Trek Into Darkness?
No, since it made more sense in Beyond. In Into Darkness, there was no logic to the scene.
How many actually survived the initial crash?
Interview with alien designer/makeup artist Joel Harlow: http://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/interview-star-trek-beyond-makeup-designer-joel-harlow/
I'm still madly in love with the Yorktown.
OK I am probably no paying attention at all but in the scene where Kirk goes to separate the neck from the saucer, Who floats off inside the neck when that window slides up to shield Uhura? Did she crash land in the neck of the ship?
I watched this again on Tuesday night in my home theater. It was my first time seeing it since the summer when it was in theaters.
I liked it the first time, but I've liked it MUCH more with repeated viewings. It really is, TO ME, one of the best Star Trek movies...easily the best since First Contact. Yes, it was smaller in scale (like Insurrection, which I didn't like), but the characters were dead-on and the "feel" of TOS was captured much better this time out. It was a fun, interesting, warm film that engaged the hearts and the smarts. I am really disappointed that it didn't perform better. I think a lot of people missed out on a really wonderful and rewarding experience.
I liked it the first time, but I've liked it MUCH more with repeated viewings. It really is, TO ME, one of the best Star Trek movies...easily the best since First Contact. Yes, it was smaller in scale (like Insurrection, which I didn't like), but the characters were dead-on and the "feel" of TOS was captured much better this time out. It was a fun, interesting, warm film that engaged the hearts and the smarts. I am really disappointed that it didn't perform better. I think a lot of people missed out on a really wonderful and rewarding experience.
This loks worth picking up
http://www.cinefex.com/backissues/issue148.htm
http://www.cinefex.com/backissues/issue148.htm
Uhura and Krall were still in the neck and I assumed they escaped from it inside one of the drone ships
OK I will have to watch this again now. (not complaining) and watch carefully. The first couple of times I watched the scene I thought it was Kirk floating off..
Just re-watched for the first time since seeing it in the theatres. Gotta say (though it pains me to) -- BORING! In retrospect, this seems like the poor cousin to the first two movies. Lower budget, less interesting story, least impact. Yeah, I get that it captures the essence of TOS, and there are gratuitous references -- exploration, rogue SF captain, etc... -- but it just doesn't work as a stand-alone film. As many have said, this was a call-back to TOS episodes. Very true. But as a motion picture, not gonna fly.
It's sort of reminiscent of the comparison of STIII to TMP. But I think this one is worse. One kept us interested through a struggle to save our favorite character. The other is just meh. The story just isn't compelling.
I do hope, somehow, there's a Star Trek 4, and I do hope it's more cinematic in its reach. Since we only get these once every 3-4 years, let's make them count. This ain't a weekly TV series any more.
It's sort of reminiscent of the comparison of STIII to TMP. But I think this one is worse. One kept us interested through a struggle to save our favorite character. The other is just meh. The story just isn't compelling.
I do hope, somehow, there's a Star Trek 4, and I do hope it's more cinematic in its reach. Since we only get these once every 3-4 years, let's make them count. This ain't a weekly TV series any more.
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OK I rewatched it too and that scene where I thought they goofed
Other then that I still enjoyed the movie and that was my 2nd full viewing.
Kirk floating off in the ship's neck part I was wrong it was Uhura and Krall
Other then that I still enjoyed the movie and that was my 2nd full viewing.
Somewhere inbetween "one of the best" and "BORING"? That's a pretty big inbetween!
A quick search shows that Beyond and Into Darkness had the same size budget.
How was this one boring to you? Because we didn't have constant ship explosions and pew-pew this go around? I felt like we finally had a chance to get to know these characters, and not just have them fire phasers and photon torpedoes in between doing shaky-cam action.
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