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Directed by Floria Sigismondi, this is the first music video to be filmed completed with IMAX cameras – and will hopefully be included on the inevitable Blu-ray release.
 
Seeing the film on July 20 is not as big as it seems. AMC and Cinemark are offering a bundle package for fans of Star Trek - they can see the first two films of the Kelvin Timeline, followed by this film on the same day. The big item here, with the event at Comic Con, is being close to the actors. (According to IMDB, movie goers in Thailand will see the film a day early, on July 19. Are there members of this board in Thailand?) Regardless, the Internet is going to be awash in details about this film well before July 22. And, there are some who are piecing the film together based on what has been released. I read an article at Flickering Myth where the writer did this very thing today.
 
Seeing the film on July 20 is not as big as it seems. .... The big item here, with the event at Comic Con, is being close to the actors.
I think the Comic Con showing will be an event in itself, a big deal for those who get to be there. Watching that movie, at that place, at that time - awesome! (for those who aren't social phobic)
 
You have to understand the context.

You can't call an action movie shitty if you are looking for deep symbolic undertones and didn't get what you wanted. You don't compare apples with oranges, and you don't compare Star Wars with Citizen Kane. They're trying to achieve different things. If an action movie was entertaining and full of action, I'd praise it as a film well done.

The Fast & Furious films are dumb. Fast Five and Fast & Furious 6 are dumb movies made very intelligently. They are at least partially the result of analyzing Michael Bay-style event movies. Taking them apart to see what works, what doesn't, why it does and why it doesn't. Lin eliminates the mean spiritedness and the cynicism and replaces them with a bunch of sincerity. They happily lean in to their own silliness and that is wise. That's a sign of a very talented filmmaker.

I wouldn't trust anyone to make a modern big-budget blockbuster film more than I do Lin. The sad thing is that people take it as an insult that they'd hire the same guy from the Fast & Furious franchise for a Star Trek film. It's just not that simple, and I hope Lin and Paramount don't take it to heart.

If all the Trekkies can come up with is "he's the KABOOM guy!!!", they're hopeless.

Meet Justin Lin, the Most Important Blockbuster Director You’ve Never Heard Of

There are action movies that I like. I know what Lin is trying to do when he makes a F&F movie. It's not highbrow stuff, I know that. I still don't think they're good, even for what they are. They're bland and boring. It's a given that they were mostly panned by critics, but only 2 of them even got more than a lukewarm response from general audiences.

That said, we probably just agree to disagree on the F&F movies, but what the other non-action stinkers he's made? Annapolis, Shopping for Fangs, Finishing the Game. These are not good movies.
 
That said, we probably just agree to disagree on the F&F movies, but what the other non-action stinkers he's made? Annapolis, Shopping for Fangs, Finishing the Game. These are not good movies.
Be specific. What's wrong with them?
 
There are action movies that I like. I know what Lin is trying to do when he makes a F&F movie. It's not highbrow stuff, I know that. I still don't think they're good, even for what they are. They're bland and boring. It's a given that they were mostly panned by critics, but only 2 of them even got more than a lukewarm response from general audiences.

That said, we probably just agree to disagree on the F&F movies, but what the other non-action stinkers he's made? Annapolis, Shopping for Fangs, Finishing the Game. These are not good movies.
FF 3, 5 and 6 are all considered by many to be the best in the franchise. 5 and 6 especially got a great response from fans.
 
Seeing the film on July 20 is not as big as it seems. AMC and Cinemark are offering a bundle package for fans of Star Trek - they can see the first two films of the Kelvin Timeline, followed by this film on the same day. The big item here, with the event at Comic Con, is being close to the actors. (According to IMDB, movie goers in Thailand will see the film a day early, on July 19. Are there members of this board in Thailand?) Regardless, the Internet is going to be awash in details about this film well before July 22. And, there are some who are piecing the film together based on what has been released. I read an article at Flickering Myth where the writer did this very thing today.

7 july. next week. Some lucky Australian people will see this movie before everyone!

any fans from Australia who got those precious tickets, here?
 
To be absolutely honest: Lin knows what he's doing. In fact, I wish someone like him would have helmed the reboot in the first place, instead of JJ Abrams. There's always a problem with self-proclaimed "visionarys". They care too much about "leaving their own mark" on a property, instead of "just" serving a good entry in a given franchise. It's the same problem with Zack Snyder, who wanted to do "his" Superman-movie instead of "a" Superman-movie, or Michael Bay, who insists on "his" version of the Transformers or Ninja Turtles.

The thing is, Star Trek is a big franchise. When Nicholas Mayer came on board, he respected that, and tried to find a way to tell a good story with the voice of the franchise. Not "reinventing" it and change it to something he likes. But to first and foremost tell a good story, and try to find out what the fans liked about the property in the first place. It's no coincidence that his Trek movies feel a lot more like the series than the first movie. On the way he brought a lot of innovations. But he never tried to turn TWOK into a clone of the then-popular Star Wars. That's what a lot of good "franchise" directors do. I love Martin Campbells "James Bond"-outings and his "Zorro" movie. The new Star Trek movies were intended from the beginning to be more of an action-blockbuster than independant art film. That's fine by me. There would have always been criticism about "lack of depth" about those kind of films. But if we had a director a bit more humble than JJ Abrams, we wouldn't have the problem of a broken timeline and a broken fan-base today. There were bad movies before (Generations, Nemesis), but they simply failed at the box office, none of them broke the franchise in half.

Justin Lin seems to have a good grip on Star Trek. It's the first time I have that feeling that somebody 1) understands Star Trek and 2) STILL is able to make it accessable for general audiences. That's a feeling I didn't had since "First Contact". And this time it's even stronger. I'm still amazed that Rihanna openly collaborates with "Star Trek". And that's great! I'm only a bit saddened he has to deal with the JJverse, instead of the "real" Trek universe...
 
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No marketing? What have we been endlessly dissecting these last few months, then?
To be honest, up until very recently there really hasn't been that much publicity for the movie. Up until a month ago IMDB was saying "plot is unknown" and I didn't even see any posters up for it at my theatre until last week, and there are a lot of people I know who had no idea there was a new Star Trek movie coming out this summer until hearing the news about Anton Yelchin. Okay, now there's magazine covers and a music video, but this movie really has had very minimal promotional work so far. It certainly doesn't help that aside from those weird "Funko" things, there's also no merchandise for the movie either.
 
I am pretty optimistic with Lin n Pegg helming. Lin grew up watching TOS with his family n feel he gets it. Should be close to TOS in movie format can be in 2016

HOPE to goodness there is a 4th w him at helm
 
Damn, that shot of the Enterprise approaching Yorktown is beautiful.

I really appreciate the new design language for Star Trek Abrams created for ST and STID, but it seems like Lin is really pushing it to the next level in this film. It's really quite beautiful.
 
Some people say that in Brazil the release date has moved to September because of the extensive pirate copying of movies. But and about the ComicCon in San Diego? Don't you think this movie will fall into internet after ComicCon? And Russia, Thailand, India, China? Why is Brazil the only to be blamed?
 
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