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New John Cho interview!
Hope it's a good sign. John isn't one to placate writers too much if he doesn't like something, even if he needs to promote the movie (remember when they were promoting stid and he said his fav villain was Khan and he added 'a man of color' ? Ouchh - Alice Eve's nervous laugh there was priceless)
Hope it's a good sign. John isn't one to placate writers too much if he doesn't like something, even if he needs to promote the movie (remember when they were promoting stid and he said his fav villain was Khan and he added 'a man of color' ? Ouchh - Alice Eve's nervous laugh there was priceless)
I never put much stock in these interviews of people who are employed to promote the product. The only real measure you get off them is a general sense of how much they are bullshitting you.
It's a strategy that only works because we're desperate for information, even promotional fluff.
It's a strategy that only works because we're desperate for information, even promotional fluff.
I adore Simon Pegg and I trust he'll do the best job he can. I'm really, really looking forward to this. July 22nd needs to get here ASAP.
That said, I really can't take anything seriously from anyone who's had anything to do with the production of the film, including actors. Lying about all aspects of a film prior to its release has become such a staple in Hollywood that I really don't know how anyone can take it at face value. I mean, I get why actors do it in that they want to make money, keep their jobs, and look appealing for future projects. And the same is true for the production staff, really. I mean, it would be outright stupid to say bad things about a project you're personally invested in. But there's no need to lie like they did with Into Darkness; saying nothing at all or just changing subjects would have been much more preferable. I mean it's not like everyone didn't already suspect Khan was going to be in it anyway. Did anyone actually go into Into Darkness and was totally blown by that reveal? I certainly wasn't.
That said, I really can't take anything seriously from anyone who's had anything to do with the production of the film, including actors. Lying about all aspects of a film prior to its release has become such a staple in Hollywood that I really don't know how anyone can take it at face value. I mean, I get why actors do it in that they want to make money, keep their jobs, and look appealing for future projects. And the same is true for the production staff, really. I mean, it would be outright stupid to say bad things about a project you're personally invested in. But there's no need to lie like they did with Into Darkness; saying nothing at all or just changing subjects would have been much more preferable. I mean it's not like everyone didn't already suspect Khan was going to be in it anyway. Did anyone actually go into Into Darkness and was totally blown by that reveal? I certainly wasn't.
They didn't lie about STID, except for Pegg. They were coy, which is itself very annoying. As for Pegg's Khan lie, I'm glad. Everyone who enjoys spoilage or spoiling others deserved it. Pegg has a similar, though less direct attitude about spoilage.
http://famousmonsters.com/archives/23188
Perhaps this interview is part of the beginning of the true marketing push toward release.
Nice, though it helps to also post a link to the source:
http://famousmonsters.com/archives/23188
Perhaps this interview is part of the beginning of the true marketing push toward release.
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Since it's their job to market the film in whatever way they are directed, it just needs a teaspoon of salt
STID was odd in its insistence upon misleading but I personally didn't mind the coy answers. I put as much stock in them as I do teaser footage-which is to say, not much, and I'm going to see the film regardless of what teasers or word of mouth says.
There's a huge difference between being coy and outright lying to people's faces, and it was more than just John Cho who lied, despite what another poster claimed. Heck, even Cumberbatch complained about having to do it after the fact, going so far as to jokingly call JJ Abrams a "dickhead" for making him and everyone else do so.Since it's their job to market the film in whatever way they are directed, it just needs a teaspoon of salt
STID was odd in its insistence upon misleading but I personally didn't mind the coy answers. I put as much stock in them as I do teaser footage-which is to say, not much, and I'm going to see the film regardless of what teasers or word of mouth says.
It's not like its limited to Into Darkness though. Most actors and the like talk up their films, lie about how great it is even when they know it stinks, lie about how well they got along with their co-stars, lie about how brilliant the director is, and etc. before the movie is released. Yes, it's obvious why they do it, but it doesn't change the fact that they actually do it in the first place.
So taking anything anyone who stands to profit from a movie at face value when they're trying to sell it is kind of weird to me. Especially when they're espousing how brilliant it is, how it's going to be exactly what the audience has been clamoring for, and pretty much everything Cho said in his aforementioned quote.
It's not just movies. Hell the gaming industry is full of bullshit. How can some games barely a week on the market get 10/10 reviews everywhere if there's not some shonky stuff going on?
You can tell me not one news source or review has been stinky?
Any industry that sells a commercial product hypes its wares.
You can tell me not one news source or review has been stinky?
Any industry that sells a commercial product hypes its wares.
You'll get no argument from me. I just am not surprised by it either.
So what's the word on the street now? Pulling the film out of CinemaCon was like a nail in the coffin.
That has literally never been a sign of anything but disaster. This is Paramount's big summer tentpole and they're pretending like it doesn't exist two months before the release.
That has literally never been a sign of anything but disaster. This is Paramount's big summer tentpole and they're pretending like it doesn't exist two months before the release.
I agree that what the cast says must be taken with a grain of salt. Ditto for what Lin and Pegg say.
It's so funny though that I, of all the people here, hoped the interview by Cho was a good sign since I'm always being vocal in my distrust for this team and Pegg, and every interview by them leaves me with a big sense of 'meh', especially the ones that are clamoring that this movie is like tos (in this case for a reason different from that of other trek fans because I do NOT want this reboot to get back to how everything was in tos because a) I like it being another reality and the potential of that b) doesn't make sense with the integrity of the characters e.g., Spock c) honoring the original and its spirit doesn't mean keep everything limited like in the 60s)
I think with Cho he doesn't strike me as a gratuitous positive dude like other actors are when they are promoting.
But then again, aside from the fact they need to promote their thing, everyone has their own perspective too and they like different things from the original series. And it's not really a given that the actors really get everything that is happening in the movie they are in. There are some comments that make me wonder if they really watched it all or just read their parts, sometimes. Often when I read the interviews made before a movie and then I watch the actual movie, it's not so rare for me to end up thinking 'what the heck they were talking about there??'.
It's so funny though that I, of all the people here, hoped the interview by Cho was a good sign since I'm always being vocal in my distrust for this team and Pegg, and every interview by them leaves me with a big sense of 'meh', especially the ones that are clamoring that this movie is like tos (in this case for a reason different from that of other trek fans because I do NOT want this reboot to get back to how everything was in tos because a) I like it being another reality and the potential of that b) doesn't make sense with the integrity of the characters e.g., Spock c) honoring the original and its spirit doesn't mean keep everything limited like in the 60s)
I think with Cho he doesn't strike me as a gratuitous positive dude like other actors are when they are promoting.
But then again, aside from the fact they need to promote their thing, everyone has their own perspective too and they like different things from the original series. And it's not really a given that the actors really get everything that is happening in the movie they are in. There are some comments that make me wonder if they really watched it all or just read their parts, sometimes. Often when I read the interviews made before a movie and then I watch the actual movie, it's not so rare for me to end up thinking 'what the heck they were talking about there??'.
Disaster?
Given the short nature of the attention span of the mass media, I would expect Paramount to begin its promo push by Memorial to focus on the summer push.
From your keyboard to God's ears. I was hoping for several movies set in the org 5 year mission time. With the timeline disrupted ( don't lije alt reality as it's the same reality universe just Narada/Nero changed events) new stories technology etc. Would make it updated fresh
The lack of promo has been frustrating but given the rush to create a new script compressed time frame to make movie and Lin rushing a teaser trailer while still editing movie (where re shoots were needed) which most fans weren't happy with all makes it more difficult to be smooth for PR team.
Hoping Lin tool his time n made a trailer that reflects TOS spirit etc.
Hopeful is where I'm at
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