I was thinking it looked more like an 'Oh shit, we're about to die!' moment like they looked in STID when Marcus targeted them.
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All this conflict makes God cry.
You motherfuckers need Jesus.
You motherfuckers need Jesus.
Even in jest, that kind of name-calling is at odds with the rules and best done without. Remember that you're not posting in a TNZ thread.
The arrangement of the panels is similar to NX class. We don´t see crew. I think it is an abandoned ship.
Am I the only one here that loves the NX01 bridge?
I like the rest of that ship too. But I love the bridge
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Jim Avery, over at Cracked, things Star Trek Beyond is the most rushed Star Trek film ever. Check it out here: http://www.cracked.com/article_23928_8-films-that-will-be-upcoming-until-end-time_p2.html
I've quoted the relevant portion:
I've quoted the relevant portion:
The only thing I didn't like was having that open conference room behind the captain's chair. Always felt that should have been walled off with Sato's station there instead. But otherwise, having the consoles face inwards towards the captain rather than away was inspired, IMO.
Meh. Most of that just feels like poking in the right places to get a reaction out of people. Re-shoots are normal, scripts being changed and altered even during filming is normal. Budgets being adjusted (both up and down) happens all the time. But connect all of that to a big name franchise like Star Trek and then cast it in a negative light, is simply a cheap trick to get people to read your article.
I mean, Pegg is one of the writers and actors, he has NO say whatsoever in what the trailer looks like, so for them to cram loads of actionshots in there to get people's attention was a surprise for him as well. He and Lin have gone on record several times that this is not what the finished movie is all about.
Ofcourse they are gonna make this summermovie look like a big-boom-spectacul, because that's what summer blockbusters are all about. Give it time people.
It's hard to take a critique seriously that thinks trimming the length of a script, beginning filming on finished portions of the script while writing is still being done, and reshoots are some kind of unprecedented occurrence in Hollywood, or that the director of the film is responsible for making the trailers.
Lots of old or misinformation that has been discredited since. We've since found out that the movie's budget is either the same or greater than STID. The quote in the article is from 2013.
The teaser trailer wasn't hard to understand. Why would anyone be saying: "wait, what"? It has since gone on to be nominated for an industry trailer award for best teaser. It's also one of the most watched trailers in history. No failure there. http://www.slashfilm.com/2016-golden-trailer-awards-nominations/
The re-shoots were planned and lasted a week. Not out of the ordinary at all.
We have no idea how many rewrites were done, and rewrites are pretty common in Hollywood.
The honor of most rushed film in Trek history goes to STTMP, Wise didn't have the final cut and reels were being shipped still wet from processing to meet it's release date.
Third party marketing companies that make trailers cut the trailers. In this case:
https://twitter.com/avsquadtrailers
http://www.theavsquad.com/
The teaser trailer wasn't hard to understand. Why would anyone be saying: "wait, what"? It has since gone on to be nominated for an industry trailer award for best teaser. It's also one of the most watched trailers in history. No failure there. http://www.slashfilm.com/2016-golden-trailer-awards-nominations/
The re-shoots were planned and lasted a week. Not out of the ordinary at all.
We have no idea how many rewrites were done, and rewrites are pretty common in Hollywood.
The honor of most rushed film in Trek history goes to STTMP, Wise didn't have the final cut and reels were being shipped still wet from processing to meet it's release date.
Third party marketing companies that make trailers cut the trailers. In this case:
https://twitter.com/avsquadtrailers
http://www.theavsquad.com/
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Exactly. I called him out on it, though I doubt he'll respond. He probably doesn't pay attention to comments. Should be interesting what I hear from others over there, though.
Thanks guys for clearing that up. That article had me worried. It was portraying STB as a rushed mess.
New York times previews summer movie schedule: New pic
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/01/movies/moviesspecial/summer-movie-releases-2016-schedule.html?rref=collection/sectioncollection/movies&action=click&contentCollection=movies®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=11&pgtype=sectionfront
No offense to Capt. Jean-Luc Picard and crew, but this is the true new generation: Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Simon Pegg, Karl Urban, Zoe Saldana, Anton Yelchin and John Cho, all back from the 2009 “Star Trek” and 2013 “Star Trek Into Darkness.” This film’s visiting stars are Shohreh Aghdashloo, as head commander of the Federation, and Idris Elba. Justin Lin directed.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/01/movies/moviesspecial/summer-movie-releases-2016-schedule.html?rref=collection/sectioncollection/movies&action=click&contentCollection=movies®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=11&pgtype=sectionfront
No offense to Capt. Jean-Luc Picard and crew, but this is the true new generation: Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Simon Pegg, Karl Urban, Zoe Saldana, Anton Yelchin and John Cho, all back from the 2009 “Star Trek” and 2013 “Star Trek Into Darkness.” This film’s visiting stars are Shohreh Aghdashloo, as head commander of the Federation, and Idris Elba. Justin Lin directed.
is this pic new?
lol @ the alien girl's posture (and she's sitting in the captain's chair)
Maybe these recent and older interviews will make you feel better.
http://collider.com/star-trek-beyond-simon-pegg-writing/
A video of the recent interview with Pegg.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/03/ju...rs-a-day-on-star-trek-beyond-post-production/
An article about just how much and quickly things are happening in post production.
http://collider.com/star-trek-3-beyond-justin-lin-interview/
An older article about JL's emotional connection to Trek.
From start to finish, Pegg, Jung and Lin would have had about 20 months all up.
A great effort.
is this pic new?
lol @ the alien girl's posture (and she's sitting in the captain's chair)
Reminds me of the promo-video where Elba and Pine where both competing for the Captain's chair. I know Pegg can write witty dialogue. Hope the script will be awesome.
Even at this stage, it does appear like the whole crew is involved with more scenes and dialogue involving the collective cast.
Let's be honest here: The new Trek is pretty much exclusively focused on appealing to young, white, male audiences. That's why so much of it's original inception was to proactively appease internet 'nerd rage'. That's why the movies are plastered with references to continuity, and the iconography of the past. Inclusivety and accepting of 'differentness' and new experiences is something from Trek's past.
Isn't it funny how STAR WARS is the more progressive science-fiction series now? My only hope is that Justin Lin (and Bryan Fuller in the future) will bring something back from Trek's original way of progressive thinking....
Perception perhaps, I don't see it trying to appeal to a particular race or gender.
Nah, SW so far has been a rehash, unlike the fresh take of ST09/STiD. Awakens was an episode IV remake but without good new characters or any good villains at all. Sometimes it's better not to be too close to the material. I think JJ should have had somebody else direct Awakens.
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Nah, SW so far has been a rehash, unlike the fresh take of ST09/STiD. Awakens was an episode IV remake but without good new characters or any good villains at all. Sometimes it's better not to be too close to the material. I think JJ should have had somebody else direct Awakens.
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You probably didn't notice because you are a white nerd male...? (as am I by the way, this is purely academical)
Let's be clear here: Force Awakens is a WAY bigger success than Star Trek 09/Into Darkness, both critically and financially.
And if you ask me, they all had exactly the same problems: They are a rehash. A "best-of" from everything that has happened before, with the exact same visuals as the original, just with better effects, but without a deeper understanding of the original material. They are basically a perfect mimikry (as was JJ's Mission Impossible III), that looks like the original, but misses the special "spark" that made the original so succesfull in the first place.
That being said, all his movies have great character work, special effects and dialogue. But Star Wars (both Force Awakens and as it seems "Roque One") are more inclusive and progressive right now. They dare to have female and ethnic people as main characters (not just as "love-interests"). They are about self-assertion in an ignoirant world. The new Trek was too much "you are destinied to become a great man, because you're the essential white leading man, and you're father was a great man before you" and less "okay, you're a stormtrooper, basically the bottom of the barrel. But you're life is about your choices, what you decide to do, what you think is right or wrong, contrary to the obstacles you face".
I see one of them as more progressive than the other, and it used to be the other way round...
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If anything it's more all-inclusive, as the 40 million or so tickets the movies each sold would attest.
Critically they are roughly equal. Financially, SW is always bigger than the niche market Trek has. Still, the 2 films made $1.1 billion, which is pretty awesome for trek. The two films doubled the gross of the first 10 films combined.
I see Awakens as dry, with the old bones of SW dressed up without much of what makes it a fun, space fantasy. Ironically Jj ddi a much better job with the Trek films, which feel alive and colorful, with a terrific (award nominated) group cast from top to bottom. Progressive? Not sure either are particularly progressive these days, but SW surely isn't.
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Critically they are roughly equal. Financially, SW is always bigger than the niche market Trek has. Still, the 2 films made $1.1 billion, which is pretty awesome for trek. The two films doubled the gross of the first 10 films combined.
I see Awakens as dry, with the old bones of SW dressed up without much of what makes it a fun, space fantasy. Ironically Jj ddi a much better job with the Trek films, which feel alive and colorful, with a terrific (award nominated) group cast from top to bottom. Progressive? Not sure either are particularly progressive these days, but SW surely isn't.
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