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Spoilers STAR TREK BEYOND

That's... very big. Here's one sized down a bit:

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That's a very bland tagline.
 
I don't think anyone has deemed the poster or the tagline as official. So maybe nothing should be made of it just yet. Hythlodeus did present it saying it could just be fan art. Google "Beyond despair lies destiny," and nothing comes up but the references on this board. So if it's official, then it's a leak before release?

Frankly, I think "Beyond despair lies destiny," is a silly line, too. How's a tagline touting despair going to pull in casual movie-goers?

Further, if we're joining the crew two or three years into their mission, one would think they've already begun fulfilling their destinies.
 
Is it known yet whether this is an official poster?

probably fan made
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honestly, I doubt it. I found it while googeling for potential set photos yesterday and safed it on my laptop to post it here and on another message board, because I haven't seen somebody else mention it yet. I tried to find it again today with the same google search words to link to the source, but failed to find it again (yet). If it were official, I think by now the poster would be everywhere around the net
 
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]That's a very bland tagline.

So was "The Future Begins" . . . but then, show me a very exciting tagline. . .

~FS

"The Future Begins" captured that the '09 movie was going back to the beginning of the "Star Trek" story —*how Kirk, Spock and the rest came together on the Enterprise. It fit.

This one, on what is presumably a fan-made poster, is generic and feels like it could be on any summer blockbuster poster.

The obvious tagline for STAR TREK BEYOND would be:

Beyond the Final Frontier​

That would capture the filmmakers intention of making this film focus on deep-space exploration.
 
This one, on what is presumably a fan-made poster, is generic and feels like it could be on any summer blockbuster poster.

The obvious tagline for STAR TREK BEYOND would be:
Beyond the Final Frontier​
That would capture the filmmakers intention of making this film focus on deep-space exploration.

"Beyond the final frontier" was my first Trek-related thought ("beyond the blue horizon" was my first thought). The problem is, the more I thought about it, the more, "beyond the final frontier," doesn't make sense. By definition, what can be beyond the final frontier?

Maybe something like, "Beyond the call of duty," as Kirk and crew often exceeded mere expectations and stretched regulations to succeed where others wouldn't have.
 
If you'll pardon the mathematical digression, "to infinity and beyond" makes sense actually, because relative orders of infinity have a sound mathematical and logical footing in the theory of cardinal numbers: some infinities are larger than others, the most well-known example being that the cardinality of the continuum is larger than the cardinality of whole numbers. In standard set theory, for every infinity, there is a larger infinity, or in other words an infinity beyond.

The final frontier, on the other hand, would be by definition the very last one, and nothing could be beyond it. If there were, it wouldn't be the final one. Just sayin'.
 
Besides, even if you limit yourself to one cardinality, adding finite numbers ("beyond") to an infinite measure is certainly a valid operation. The infinite value is not a single point (even though confusingly enough it is a singularity and is represented as a single point) – subtracting infinity from itself can produce any number, therefore the infinity itself is quite wide – you can still go as further as you like when you're there. It's actually infinite.

And the world beyond the final frontier is obviously a world with no more frontiers – a concept very much in line with the Star Trek hippy utopia. I don't see the issue there.

If you want to make our brains spin, call it "Beyond The North Pole".
 
And the world beyond the final frontier is obviously a world with no more frontiers – a concept very much in line with the Star Trek hippy utopia. I don't see the issue there.

Alright, I can see that that makes sense.

Besides, even if you limit yourself to one cardinality, adding finite numbers ("beyond") to an infinite measure is certainly a valid operation.

True!
 
^Though saying "beyond the final frontier" could be taken to mean expanding the consciousness to accept things beyond what was previously thought possible; a redefinition of finality as it were.
 
^Though saying "beyond the final frontier" could be taken to mean expanding the consciousness to accept things beyond what was previously thought possible; a redefinition of finality as it were.

Reminiscent of V'Ger's quest in TMP. Or Q's little speech at the end of "All Good Things...".
 
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