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Spoilers STAR TREK BEYOND

wonder if they'll incorporate 'Beyond' into the tagline -
e.g.
'A Star Trek beyond any other..'
'A Star Trek beyond the final frontier..(I should hope so! :))'
"Beyond the darkness..beyond the human adventure... is Khan(j/k :D)"
'the Battle for beyond has begun!'
 
Here's your trailer VO:

Space... the final frontier. And beyond that darkness lies: mystery ... danger ... new friendships ... new enemies. Join the crew of the Enterprise on a journey beyond Earth, beyond our solar system, beyond everything we know, beyond everything that we think possible. Star Trek: Beyond.
 
I suspect that the powers that be would like to copy success.
That's often been Trek's path. Originally it wanted to be like the successful "Adult Western". At one time a very successful formula on TV. TMP was an odd duck, looking to duplicate the smart SF feel of 2001 rather than the more recent science fantasy of Star Wars. But they "corrected course" with TWOK. TNG went back to the "Adult Western". (Wagon Train to the Stars). DS9 followed suit. (Gunsmoke to the Stars) Voyager and Enterprise were Wagon Train too. Though they should have been looking to shows like Hill Street Blues and St Elsewhere. Programs that were on the leading edge of what TV drama would be come.
 
TMP was an odd duck, looking to duplicate the smart SF feel of 2001 rather than the more recent science fantasy of Star Wars. But they "corrected course" with TWOK.

There were a number of thoughtful sci-fi movies in the 70s that did pretty well (Close Encounters came out same year as Star Wars). It's possible they thought that kind of approach would still be commercial. Maybe it would have been, if Spielberg had directed instead of Wise.
 
That's often been Trek's path. Originally it wanted to be like the successful "Adult Western". At one time a very successful formula on TV. TMP was an odd duck, looking to duplicate the smart SF feel of 2001 rather than the more recent science fantasy of Star Wars. But they "corrected course" with TWOK.

Thank you for putting that in quotes. There are those of us who feel that cinematic Trek has been on the wrong course ever since it started copying Star Wars and going for battle-driven action rather than thoughtful, idea-driven SF.


TNG went back to the "Adult Western". (Wagon Train to the Stars). DS9 followed suit. (Gunsmoke to the Stars)
Their specific point of reference for DS9 was actually The Rifleman, with its central father-son relationship.


Voyager and Enterprise were Wagon Train too. Though they should have been looking to shows like Hill Street Blues and St Elsewhere. Programs that were on the leading edge of what TV drama would be come.
That's kinda what DS9 did, and what ENT tried to do in its third and fourth seasons. Although I think ENT season 3 was more influenced by 24.

As for ENT's first season, I see a lot of M*A*S*H influence there, with an emphasis on smaller, slice-of-life stories about the shipboard community. They even did a "letter to home" episode like M*A*S*H often did.


There were a number of thoughtful sci-fi movies in the 70s that did pretty well (Close Encounters came out same year as Star Wars). It's possible they thought that kind of approach would still be commercial.

Close Encounters is not what I'd call a thoughtful film. I find it really rather brainless, more about emotion and sensation than anything rational or logically coherent. After all, UFO belief is a modern pseudo-religion, and CE3K is very much a story about pursuing faith and mystery in defiance of logic and common sense. So it's more "feelful" than thoughtful.

Spielberg was never a contrast to Lucas; they were both very much in the same wheelhouse, making fantasies that appealed more to impulse and emotion than intellect or sophisticated ideas. If anything, Lucas was the less emotionally driven one, in the sense that the main emotion that drove him was nostalgia for the movies he grew up with and devoted his career to pastiching. Spielberg was also driven by nostalgia, but in his case it was nostalgia for actual childhood and the sense of wonder and mystery that came with it, rather than just for the entertainment of his childhood. Although that makes me sound more approving of Spielberg's ouevre than I actually am, because I find his idea of wonder and mystery to be far too lacking in reason and intelligence, and far too sappy and romanticized. (Perhaps the purest distillation of Spielberg's nostalgia for childhood is E.T., a film I absolutely loathe.)
 
I read that Chris Pine is in Comancheria. Pic starts May 26th in New Mexico. And Star Trek 3?

acting auditictions said the filming set to begin on June 15, 2015 (not June 3).
I am worried about this new. :confused:
 
Assuming 45-60 days to shoot Comancheria, they could finish Pine's work early and ship him off to Trek in 30 days while Trek 3 shoots around him for those few weeks he's away.

Or they'll push back the shoot and move the release date later into 2016.

Or the film won't happen.

No skin off my teeth one way or another.
 
Is Pine the star or playing a supporting role? If it's a supporting role, the time he spends on the film could be as little as a few days.
 
I'm sure those involved have checked the filming schedules for any conflicts before signing the contracts.
 
Probably just coincidence, but the title Comancheria reminds me of White Comanche. Tell me Pine isn't playing twins. :lol:
 
I'm sure those involved have checked the filming schedules for any conflicts before signing the contracts.

I believe that agents get paid a lot of money to determine such things.

Pine certainly would have time to film most of his scenes, go to Vancouver, and then head back or to LA to do pick ups.

Its a pain in the rear, but that's why he gets paid the big bucks.
 
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