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WOW!!!

"Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed #159"

"COMIC URBAN LEGEND: Paramount canceled DC’s first Star Trek series and relaunched without Peter David because his new creations were more popular than the Paramount characters."

STATUS: False With a Tinge of Truth

Reader John Kuczaj sent me the following in October of 2006, in a massive e-mail that I’ve already used three times for material:

"DC canceled their first Star Trek series and re-launched it without Peter David because Paramount was not happy that the David-created characters were more popular and prominent (Ensign Bearclaw, anyone?) than the other original crew supporting characters."

Source: http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/06/12/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-159/

You clipped the article. The second DC Comics series launched with Peter David as the writer and he lasted until issue #19 ("Once a Hero...").

He ended up leaving due to Richard Arnold (who David had clashed with), who handled tie-ins at the time. The story goes that Arnold rejected "Once a Hero...", then David resubmitted it under a different name and Arnold loved it and gave it the Paramount seal of approval.

The reason the book stopped being published was because they were renegotiating the license. That is according to Bob Greenberger, who was the editor of both books. IIRC.
 
Unintentionally...just wanted to get the "Star Trek" part in, but have been told before about the length and detail of my Posts here, in this thread! :lol:

Glad there is someone out there who knows a whole hell of a lot more about comics then I do! Thanks BillJ for setting the record more straight! :techman:
 
Unintentionally...just wanted to get the "Star Trek" part in, but have been told before about the length and detail of my Posts here, in this thread! :lol:

Glad there is someone out there who knows a whole hell of a lot more about comics then I do! Thanks BillJ for setting the record more straight! :techman:

From Peter David in the comments section of the same article you linked...



Peter David
June 13, 2008 at 10:41 am
Bart J. has it essentially correct.

The fact is that Richard Arnold’s notes became increasingly ludicrous, such as shutting down a romantic interest for Kirk by asserting that Kirk was no longer interested in women. We were reaching the point where it was becoming impossible to get stories approved. Richard rejected one story with the assertion that there was “too much violence,” even though the violence consisted of a sustained fist fight scene with Kirk (as if they never had those in Trek). As a test, I submitted a script under a fake name which sailed through the approvals process even though it had far more violence than the previous script which was rejected for that reason. When that was approved, I knew that it had nothing to do with the stories and everything to do with Richard’s enmity toward me (a far longer story to go into.) At which point I resigned from the book since I felt I could no longer do the job I was hired to do, namely provide stories for DC.

Final kicker: The fake name under which I submitted the story that was approved? “Robert Bruce Banner.”

PAD
 
Not meaning to derail the thread too much...

More of Peter David's issues with Richard Arnold on the book Q-in-Law.



Peter David
August 24, 2012 at 6:47 am
"Well, it was just such a bizarre random insult to come in on a years old thread. Richard Arnold spent years making life miserable for every book writer connected to “Star Trek.” And some anonymous yahoo comes in and tries to make it all about me. Everyone who worked on Trek during the Arnold years have horror stories.

Several of the more egregious Arnold dictates are mentioned above, although one of my favorites remains when I depicted Kirk, Spock, et al with thought balloons. A style that’s fallen out of favor in more recent years, but in those days they were commonplace. And Richard ordered the cessation of their use with the following edict: “Our characters don’t think.”

To fully understand what a weasel he was: Pocket submitted one of my MS for approval, a book called Q-In-Law, involving Q crossing swords with Lwaxana Troi. The maximum that Richard was supposed to take to approve it was six weeks. Six MONTHS later he had yet to approve it. He offered no comments; he just stonewalled it. At a NY Creation Con that we were both attending, and he kept avoiding me, I figured I had nothing to lose. I did a reading from Q-In-Law in a packed ballroom where I knew that Richard was in the back. It killed. The fans loved it. Richard quickly retaliated. A few days Pocket gets an angry letter declaring that QIL would require massive rewrites because it was “an insult to Star Trek.” Yet he continued to provide no specific criticisms. We were supposed to guess.

More months passed and the book was in danger of missing shipping. We were running out of options. I seized a last-ditch effort: Majel Barrett was going to be a guest at a local convention. We already had the cover proof (even though the book wasn’t approved) so I took a fresh copy of the manuscript, with the cover included, and brought it to Majel. Without mentioning the stonewalling by Richard, I told her I was interested in getting her feedback since it focused so heavily on her character. She said she’d love to read it.

She was as good as her word. Apparently she read it that very weekend. Because–and this I got word of from friendlies within Paramount–she breezed into the Star Trek office and raved to anyone who would listen about this WONderful upcoming Trek novel, Q-in-Law. And she goes into Richard’s office and says, “Richard! Have you read this WONderful book, Q-in-Law!”

And Richard says, “Why no, Majel! I haven’t yet. But I’ll get right on it!”

The book later saw print with a handful of exceedingly minor changes.

Richard Arnold, kids."

I've heard Richard Arnold horror stories from more than one author during the years of his involvement with Paramount Licensing.
 
Love it! Oh, the story behind the story behind the story!
That is one clever Pseudonym.

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Not meaning to derail the thread too much...

More of Peter David's issues with Richard Arnold on the book Q-in-Law.



Peter David
August 24, 2012 at 6:47 am
"Well, it was just such a bizarre random insult to come in on a years old thread. Richard Arnold spent years making life miserable for every book writer connected to “Star Trek.” And some anonymous yahoo comes in and tries to make it all about me. Everyone who worked on Trek during the Arnold years have horror stories.

Several of the more egregious Arnold dictates are mentioned above, although one of my favorites remains when I depicted Kirk, Spock, et al with thought balloons. A style that’s fallen out of favor in more recent years, but in those days they were commonplace. And Richard ordered the cessation of their use with the following edict: “Our characters don’t think.”

To fully understand what a weasel he was: Pocket submitted one of my MS for approval, a book called Q-In-Law, involving Q crossing swords with Lwaxana Troi. The maximum that Richard was supposed to take to approve it was six weeks. Six MONTHS later he had yet to approve it. He offered no comments; he just stonewalled it. At a NY Creation Con that we were both attending, and he kept avoiding me, I figured I had nothing to lose. I did a reading from Q-In-Law in a packed ballroom where I knew that Richard was in the back. It killed. The fans loved it. Richard quickly retaliated. A few days Pocket gets an angry letter declaring that QIL would require massive rewrites because it was “an insult to Star Trek.” Yet he continued to provide no specific criticisms. We were supposed to guess.

More months passed and the book was in danger of missing shipping. We were running out of options. I seized a last-ditch effort: Majel Barrett was going to be a guest at a local convention. We already had the cover proof (even though the book wasn’t approved) so I took a fresh copy of the manuscript, with the cover included, and brought it to Majel. Without mentioning the stonewalling by Richard, I told her I was interested in getting her feedback since it focused so heavily on her character. She said she’d love to read it.

She was as good as her word. Apparently she read it that very weekend. Because–and this I got word of from friendlies within Paramount–she breezed into the Star Trek office and raved to anyone who would listen about this WONderful upcoming Trek novel, Q-in-Law. And she goes into Richard’s office and says, “Richard! Have you read this WONderful book, Q-in-Law!”

And Richard says, “Why no, Majel! I haven’t yet. But I’ll get right on it!”

The book later saw print with a handful of exceedingly minor changes.

Richard Arnold, kids."

I've heard Richard Arnold horror stories from more than one author during the years of his involvement with Paramount Licensing.

Excellent detail!!

Please, both of you, join us in the countdown...we are too few!
 
Yes, please join in!

...just wanted to get the "Star Trek" part in, but have been told before about the length and detail of my Posts here, in this thread! :lol:

Who said that, I don't recall the length of your posts being an issue. I wondered if something happened to put you off the CD. Is that why you stopped adding to the CD a while back?

My apologies if I somehow implied that, I certainty didn't mean to.

The coordinates used by the Suliban to hide a helix was 158 mark 13.
 
Happy Valentines Day!

Starfleet Regulation 157, Section 3 (Paragraph 18)
Starfleet officers are required to take all necessary precautions to minimize any participation in historical events. DS9 Trials and Tribulations
 
Happy Valentines Day!

Starfleet Regulation 157, Section 3 (Paragraph 18)
Starfleet officers are required to take all necessary precautions to minimize any participation in historical events. DS9 Trials and Tribulations

Except when they're suppose to! :lol:
 
Yes, please join in!



Who said that, I don't recall the length of your posts being an issue. I wondered if something happened to put you off the CD. Is that why you stopped adding to the CD a while back?

My apologies if I somehow implied that, I certainty didn't mean to.

The coordinates used by the Suliban to hide a helix was 158 mark 13.

Oh, No no no! Nothing to do with you, my Friend!
 
Will do, and thanks! You feel free to do the same.

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This past New Year's Eve, some of our beloved Star Trek characters could be seen on the SyFy Channel airing of all 156 Episodes of "The Twilight Zone"!
 
In deleted scene number 155 from ENT Broken Bow, Sato is convinced she has frost bite and is discussing the symptoms with Reed.

Hmm.
 
That frostbite will nip ya'! :lol:

155

A fan named "Ray" made a Klingon-looking ship out of 155 pieces of scrap wood.

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Source: Pinterest
 
*DING* Attention entrepreneurs! Starship shaped blocks for baby. My finders fee is 10%. PM me for payment information. :D Get ready for easy street, Hijol.

The Second Doctor is described on page 154 of the Star Trek Novel
lshmael by Barbara Hambly.
 
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@ Keeper. I am in!!! PM to follow!

10 hours ahead of you, so I will delay my 154 entry, so as not too confuse...you clock says I still have 155 days.
 
Got the PM. Yep, get ready to light your cigars with hundred dollar bills. Oops, make that hundred Pound notes. :lol:

:techman:
 
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