Do you think the animated trek series is good enough to be considered the 4rth and 5th season>??
star trek animated 4rth and 5th season of star trek??
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25th Anniversary and Judgement Rights are definitely in there too
Agree. Having TOS cast and writers involved has TAS completing the five year mission began on TOS.
I agree about a season not equaling a "year". Kirk seemed to be on board and in command of Enterprise 2 to 3 years at the time of the 2nd pilot anyway. I know that meets resistance from some but there is no mention of a 5 year mission in any episode excepting the intro in the music, so I really don't think it's necessary to pin it to a certain amount of years. Also the stardates are in random order, they really aren't made serially.
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Can all 79 live episodes, and 22 animated episodes be fitted into a five-year period? I think maybe not. Take for example The Paradise Syndrome where we need to account for at least a couple months of time for Miramanee's pregnancy. Then you need to take into account travel time between episodes, downtime for the crew, maintenance periods for the ship, etc.
Can all 79 live episodes, and 22 animated episodes be fitted into a five-year period? I think maybe not. Take for example The Paradise Syndrome where we need to account for at least a couple months of time for Miramanee's pregnancy. Then you need to take into account travel time between episodes, downtime for the crew, maintenance periods for the ship, etc.
Typically a series, especially today, is understood to have 1 season = 1 year. This especially makes sense for modern day series that depict the 4 seasons or annual holidays. Sometimes these shows likewise state there are months between episodes on occasion. You just have to squint and believe these people's lives are very full and active at times.
So, 5 years... 260 weeks. 79 live action and 22 animated episodes. 101 episodes. 1 episode for every 2.5 weeks.
ST Continues 11 episodes
New Voyages / Phase 2 12 episodes
No worse than any other show. At least it's not MASH which ran for 11 seasons depicting the Korean War which lasted 3 years. That breaks down to 1 episode every 1.5 days.
So, 5 years... 260 weeks. 79 live action and 22 animated episodes. 101 episodes. 1 episode for every 2.5 weeks.
ST Continues 11 episodes
New Voyages / Phase 2 12 episodes
No worse than any other show. At least it's not MASH which ran for 11 seasons depicting the Korean War which lasted 3 years. That breaks down to 1 episode every 1.5 days.
The cartoon episodes are even campier and cheesier than TOS. They are kind of childish, often times and generally boring. Despite all of these - and many other - failings, TAS kept STAR TREK alive for long enough in the imagination of the general public to allow for the possibility of STAR TREK: The Motion Picture. A cinematic masterpiece and timeless classic that is a visual marvel to behold. For this reason, alone, the cartoon deserves a certain appreciation.
It's something like eleven years' worth of developments fitting into a three-year war on M*A*S*H .
Kor
That's pretty easy to determine.
1826 days in 5 Earth years (counting one leap day)
78 TOS adventures (counting The Menagerie as one story)
+
22 TAS
=
100 adventures
1826 / 100 = 18.26 days or about 2.6 weeks between adventure starts. Most episodes seem to have covered little more than a day or two, so if you assume the average story took place over 4 days you have an average if two weeks of transit time between each.
1826 days in 5 Earth years (counting one leap day)
78 TOS adventures (counting The Menagerie as one story)
+
22 TAS
=
100 adventures
1826 / 100 = 18.26 days or about 2.6 weeks between adventure starts. Most episodes seem to have covered little more than a day or two, so if you assume the average story took place over 4 days you have an average if two weeks of transit time between each.
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True, but if memory serves TPS is the only episode that definitely takes place over more than a couple of days - City as well, but only for Kirk, Spock and McCoy - everyone else perceives it as a short space of time. Many episodes take place in just a few hours: Doomsday Machine, Tholian Web, Wink of an Eye, Changeling, Catspaw, Devil in the Dark, Wolf in the Fold, Arena, The Apple, Squire of Gothos, Requiem, and many many others.
And as our heroes have the secrets of time travel down pat, they could easily cram extra adventures into every hour originally left idle, without even needing to contradict themselves...
That a TOS season would have been one year long appears unlikely - see for example how three years pass between "Errand of Mercy" and "Day of the Dove" in dialogue. That the 5000-something stardates would cover five years (as happens in all the 24th century shows) is the more workable proposition here. But we could insert extra adventures before TOS just as nicely as after or during it - with or without the character of McCoy, say.
If TAS is Trek canon at all (and there's little reason to think it would not be, and none to say it should not be), then it rather obviously is part of the five-year mission. Otherwise it would just extend the mission into a six- or seven-year one, there being no known endpoint to the mission other than "Kirk stopped logging star hours aboard the Enterprise"!
Timo Saloniemi
That a TOS season would have been one year long appears unlikely - see for example how three years pass between "Errand of Mercy" and "Day of the Dove" in dialogue. That the 5000-something stardates would cover five years (as happens in all the 24th century shows) is the more workable proposition here. But we could insert extra adventures before TOS just as nicely as after or during it - with or without the character of McCoy, say.
If TAS is Trek canon at all (and there's little reason to think it would not be, and none to say it should not be), then it rather obviously is part of the five-year mission. Otherwise it would just extend the mission into a six- or seven-year one, there being no known endpoint to the mission other than "Kirk stopped logging star hours aboard the Enterprise"!
Timo Saloniemi
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