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STAR TREK 4 BACK ON! Noah Hawley to write and direct

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And new Noah news...
You're also writing a Star Trek movie. From our conversation earlier it sounded like you're going tonally for something that's less about battle and war and closer to the exploratory spirit of The Original Series?

I can't say much about it except it's an argument for why humanity should prevail and why we should come together and unite, which I think is important – to look at the United Federation of Planets and remember at some point Earth is what we are now and then we invented warp technology and met extraterrestrial life and everybody came together. But how? How did we get from where we are now to where they are then? And what happens if that utopian reality is challenged? There are times of challenge and war when we have to prove our values all over again. Maybe there's a time in the Federation where this ideal is challenged and it won't survive on its own. It needs to be saved.

(Entertainment Weekly)

Maybe Paramount is doing this to gauge reaction and give them an idea on where to go...

If so, please, Paramount, do Noah Hawley's Star Trek movie.
 
I can see why they'd put it on hold for now, but it sounds interesting. I'm going to call it Star Trek XIV instead of Star Trek 4, since it looks like this isn't a continuation of the Abrams Films.
 
Doesn't sound that different to the stuff we heard before the release of Beyond to be honest.
Yes. also abit Disco s3..

If I was to chose between Trek Thor and Noahs Pandemic Trek id chose the safe option of the mighty Hemsworth even though I know it'd only make 250m ww before covid .

Of course Tarantino Trek trumps both imo
 
I can see why they'd put it on hold for now, but it sounds interesting. I'm going to call it Star Trek XIV instead of Star Trek 4, since it looks like this isn't a continuation of the Abrams Films.
I agree, not ST4. As much as I'd like to see the fresh angle, I'm still solidly down for completing the cycle of the Kelvin films. I really need to see the Hargreaves Enterprise in action for one whole movie!

RAMA
 
I think Hawley said the movie would tie into the Kelvin ones in some way. So if it ever gets made (I was done holding my breath long before the possible death of the movie industry by Covid-19) I fully expect an Enterprise-A cameo at the end, with Chris Pine and whoever else is avilable on screen.
 
Yeah, he has made the Khan reference before.

The full quote from the article...
What I love about Star Trek is that it’s not a war story. It’s not a story in which might makes right,” he told Observer. “It’s a story about exploration. It’s a story about creative problem solving. My favorite moment in all of Star Trek is in Wrath of Khan when Kirk puts on his reading glasses to lower Khan’s shields. It’s a brief moment that is so exhilarating because he’s using the best tool he has, which is his mind. As much as I like the Chris Pine movies they were mostly about running from one end of the ship to the other to put out a fire, to stop a thing, and then before he could catch his breath he had to do something else. They’re much more action movies and what I wanted to get back to was this idea of humanity justifying existence in the universe by showing its best qualities.”

...this sounds like things pretty much every Trek fan should like, and the parts I put in bold I know are what I love most about Star Trek and I really dug a couple of the "pew pew" JJ movies.

A "think piece" Star Trek movie though will never make a lot of money because we as a society simply don't work on that level. You need the "pew pew's" and the fisticuffs and the action if you wanna make bank. And this is probably why his movie has been put on hold (along with COVID 19 reasons, as well; natch). Paramount is a for-profit company and they want to make as much money as possible.

Not to covet thy neighbor's fandom too hard, but the reality is f*cking Captain America is a bigger deal than Captain Kirk and that makes me sad... and a little mad (like, "How the hell did that happen?!").

But yep, give me boring, navel gazing, watching paint dry, 2001-esque Star Trek every day of the week and twice on Sunday. It's gotta have JJ Trek production values though, I mean, c'mon... do that though and you got perfection.
 
Unfortunately, I think he's way off the mark.

The whole theme of Beyond was humanity bettering itself through cooperation and unity. To simply dismiss it as an action film and suggest that he's come up with something completely different is a very shallow approach.

I'd take any Kelvin film over TMP.

Honestly, people who criticize the existing movies under the pretence their own will be 'better' and they are going to 'fix' the franchise just paint themselves into a corner, not to mention they are instantly annoying to me. Your movie isn't even real yet.. I'm like, chill...let the movie speak for itself. If it's good it's good.

Tbh, I think it's bad idea, to begin with, when new creative teams passive aggressive criticize the previous ones. In the end, they all are working in the same franchise and trying to sell a product. . and this trilogy does have fans. I'm unsure about what they can gain from essentially alienating existing fans.
 
Not to mention, after it's been released and everyone's seen it and a lot of people don't like it, they double down with "We're all very pleased". That was a main staple from the ol' Berman playbook.
 
In my view, no Star Trek movie has ever nailed it. That’s why the franchise is always being canceled and revived, and that’s why there are constant course corrections. Why should any previous Star Trek movie be above criticism? If they ask you to do a Star Trek movie, of course you are going to talk about what you think Star Trek is all about, because no-one has yet discovered a sure-fire template. If there were, they wouldn’t be flailing about all the time.
 
In my view, no Star Trek movie has ever nailed it. That’s why the franchise is always being canceled and revived, and that’s why there are constant course corrections. Why should any previous Star Trek movie be above criticism? If they ask you to do a Star Trek movie, of course you are going to talk about what you think Star Trek is all about, because no-one has yet discovered a sure-fire template. If there were, they wouldn’t be flailing about all the time.
Star trek had a nearly unbroken movie run from 1979 to 2002. The only two star trek TV shows to be cancelled were TOS in the 60's and ENT in the 2000's. How does that factor into Star Trek movies. The only thing that NEARLY killed Star Trek movies was Nemesis, and it was still not that long a wait until 2009. It only felt like it at the time.
 
Star trek had a nearly unbroken movie run from 1979 to 2002. The only two star trek TV shows to be cancelled were TOS in the 60's and ENT in the 2000's. How does that factor into Star Trek movies. The only thing that NEARLY killed Star Trek movies was Nemesis, and it was still not that long a wait until 2009. It only felt like it at the time.
And even then Enterprise was still going on and they were working on plans for TNG 5, In the Beginning, JMS's Star Trek reboot, Bryan Singer's Federation and Final Frontier. And even Trek09 was getting started around 2007 I believe. Yowza, that's a lot!
 
And even then Enterprise was still going on and they were working on plans for TNG 5, In the Beginning, JMS's Star Trek reboot, Bryan Singer's Federation and Final Frontier. And even Trek09 was getting started around 2007 I believe. Yowza, that's a lot!
there was also that crazy rumour of a 40minute IMAX trek movie with various crossover Trek actors (surely Shatner wouldve wanted in on that)
 
And even then Enterprise was still going on and they were working on plans for TNG 5, In the Beginning, JMS's Star Trek reboot, Bryan Singer's Federation and Final Frontier. And even Trek09 was getting started around 2007 I believe. Yowza, that's a lot!
there was even the animated proposal by Diggs for Lions in the Night, around 2003.
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Considering the decline in Fargo and the less-than-impressive results from Hawley's other projects, I can't say I'm looking forward to this. I don't want another story challenging whether the Federation deserves to exist, which a lot of the more recent projects have been. I don't want another bad man with a big gun storyline which the last four movies have been. The knock on the Kelvin trilogy about being all action is fair, considering stuff like having Spock jump off a building and using the Enterprise as a punching bag.

I would be very happy with a movie that combines the scope and big ideas of The Motion Picture with the excitement and character interaction of The Wrath of Khan.
 
Star trek had a nearly unbroken movie run from 1979 to 2002. The only thing that NEARLY killed Star Trek movies was Nemesis, and it was still not that long a wait until 2009. It only felt like it at the time.
*shrug* There was a break in the movie franchise, a period of uncertainty during which many different projects were bandied about, and finally a return to theaters with a new format. That certainly seems to be what we are going through now. Out of the four scripts that we know about, only one of them continues with the Kelvin Universe and cast, and that is the one that has been least talked about since 2018. Here is a summary:

(A)
Director - S.J. Clarkson (walked away in 2019)
Kelvin Timeline - yes
Cast - Chris Pine (walked away in 2018)

(B)
Director - Quentin Tarantino (“probably” walked away in 2020)
Script - Mark L. Smith
Kelvin Timeline - no
Cast - Chris Pine

(C)
Director - Noah Hawley
Kelvin Timeline - no
Cast - not Chris Pine

(D)
Script - Robert Sallin
Kelvin Timeline - no
Cast - not Chris Pine

I suppose if things change and they do end up doing a fourth Chris Pine, Kelvin Timeline movie and everything is hunky-dory, then looking back on this period will be very different. But right now it looks like likely that a new direction is coming.
 
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*shrug* There was a break in the movie franchise, a period of uncertainty during which many different projects were bandied about, and finally a return to theaters with a new format. That certainly seems to be what we are going through now. Out of the four scripts that we know about, only one of them continues with the Kelvin Universe and cast, and that is the one that has been least talked about since 2018. Here is a summary:

(A)
Director - S.J. Clarkson (walked away in 2019)
Kelvin Timeline - yes
Cast - Chris Pine (walked away in 2018)

(B)
Director - Quentin Tarantino (“probably” walked away in 2020)
Script - Mark L. Smith
Kelvin Timeline - no
Cast - Chris Pine

(C)
Director - Noah Hawley
Kelvin Timeline - no
Cast - not Chris Pine

(D)
Script - Robert Sallin
Kelvin Timeline - no
Cast - not Chris Pine
"In my view, no Star Trek movie has ever nailed it. That’s why the franchise is always being canceled and revived, and that’s why there are constant course corrections."

I still don't get it.
 
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