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Star Trek 3 (or 13) Story Ideas

JWPlatt

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Imagine Roberto Orci has been fired completely from Star Trek and Doug Jung and Simon Pegg went with him. You were hired because you think you can do better than any of them. What's your story pitch?

For example:

In "Balance of Terror," the Romulan commander says, after Kirk as beaten him, "In a different reality, I could have called you friend."

Well perfect, we can literally use that because now we are in fact in a different reality. The Klingons wage their war and through a series of hijinks, the Romulans are forced to ally with the Federation. That same Romulan commander works with nuKirk within the joint fleet defending their space against the Klingons, replacing the events of "Balance of Terror." They call each other "friend" at the end as the victors form a lasting but uneasy truce. nuKirk, who has the memory of the "Balance of Terror" battle from his mind meld from Spock, offers the story to the Romulan commander at some point for their mutual appreciation and respect. Flashbacks include the Romulan war with nuclear weapons and radio communications.
 
The same problems exist with your idea that everyone claims is an issue with Orci's: you're lifting material from the Prime timeline to make a film.

How about we at least give Lin, Jung and Pegg a chance before declaring them a failure?
 
The same problems exist with your idea that everyone claims is an issue with Orci's: you're lifting material from the Prime timeline to make a film.

How about we at least give Lin, Jung and Pegg a chance before declaring them a failure?
10 points off for being a party pooper and not playing the game. The thread is about your imagination and ideas - not criticism. Let's move on.
 
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The same problems exist with your idea that everyone claims is an issue with Orci's: you're lifting material from the Prime timeline to make a film.

How about we at least give Lin, Jung and Pegg a chance before declaring them a failure?
They are getting their chance, out there in the (more or less) real world.

In here, in the hypothetical world of this thread, one has an equally hypothetical chance to come up with what one hopes will be a killer idea for a movie, whether that idea be wholly original or re-imagined retread or anywhere in between.

Let's just play this one according to the thread's premise, OK?
 
The same problems exist with your idea that everyone claims is an issue with Orci's: you're lifting material from the Prime timeline to make a film.

How about we at least give Lin, Jung and Pegg a chance before declaring them a failure?
They are getting their chance, out there in the (more or less) real world.

In here, in the hypothetical world of this thread, one has an equally hypothetical chance to come up with what one hopes will be a killer idea for a movie, whether that idea be wholly original or re-imagined retread or anywhere in between.

Let's just play this one according to the thread's premise, OK?

Just one of those things where the very first paragraph is very off-putting. Why do we need to imagine anyone being fired to come up with ideas?
 
The same problems exist with your idea that everyone claims is an issue with Orci's: you're lifting material from the Prime timeline to make a film.

How about we at least give Lin, Jung and Pegg a chance before declaring them a failure?
They are getting their chance, out there in the (more or less) real world.

In here, in the hypothetical world of this thread, one has an equally hypothetical chance to come up with what one hopes will be a killer idea for a movie, whether that idea be wholly original or re-imagined retread or anywhere in between.

Let's just play this one according to the thread's premise, OK?

Just one of those things where the very first paragraph is very off-putting. Why do we need to imagine anyone being fired to come up with ideas?
So do a rewrite. Make the first sentence instead read something like:

"Oh, no - the writing staff have all suddenly become incapacitated!"

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And then go from there. Or simply opt not to play.
 
Any story will be fine for me as long as there is nothing so drastically similar to a tos trek film like STID was so similar to WOK.
 
The point of the thread isn't to discuss other story ideas but to present your own. Unfortunately, it was derailed from the start.

So if you have a great story idea, or you think you can do better than the films, or you don't like what you see here, let's see what you've got instead.
 
Well, I like your initial idea, and am trying to brain storm some of my own. Personally, I would like to see Kirk serve as the Klingon ambassador from the Federation in an attempt to undo the damage by Khan and Marcus. As part of the process, the Klingons demand that the Enterprise crew prove their honor by engaging in some trials. Kirk begins, but Spock and McCoy suspect something. When they discover plans for an invasion, they must warn the Federation without tipping their hand.

It's a work in progress, but I like the idea of Kirk deciding to broker the peace and bring in some classic style literature in the form of the trials worth. Also, can work in the Romulans as unexpected allies.
 
The creation of the genesis project, David being conceived, and war with the Klingons. Maybe make "Kor" the main villain, but cast him well. lol
 
I would also like to use a Romulan angle, though I'd like to cut out the Klingons entirely.
We should not need a common enemy to make new friends; if we do, we can never have lasting peace.

Rather, I would like to see something more along the lines of Star Trek VI, where the conflict was not primarily about defeating an enemy (though that was certainly part of it), but rather it was about achieving peace by overcoming obstacles intrinsic to the peace process itself, such as a troubled history and destructive/hateful elements and attitudes within the two societies themselves.

:klingon: The choice: Klingons or Romulans? :rommie:

In the TMP era, the Klingons were the natural choice: They were a recognizable species, and our protagonists had a lot of history with Klingons, which conferred a lot of personal biases towards the species as a whole.

For the reboot universe, I think that the Romulans fit this role much better than the Klingons.
It was a Romulan who killed Kirk's father, and destroyed Spock's homeworld, killing his mother and further isolating him from his Vulcan heritage in the process.

Furthermore, the state of Vulcan in Romulus largely defines the separation between the two universes.
In the one universe, Romulus is gone but Vulcan lives on.
In the other, the situation is the reverse.

:vulcan: A tale of two Spocks :vulcan:

Furthermore, let us consider the case of Spock Prime:
He is the only person who has traveled between the two universes and is still alive; the last surviving link between them.
Furthermore, he has three sworn duties:

  1. Vulcan-Romulan reunification
  2. Saving Romulus from destruction (in the Prime universe)
  3. Preserving Vulcan culture (in the alternate universe)

One could see how duties 1) and 3) might be combined. In the alternate universe, they've already gleaned that Romulan and Vulcan culture are connected.
Therefore, reunification could be one way for the Vulcans to reconnect with their heritage.
(However, some might object to this, claiming that assimilating a group of about 10,000 Vulcans into a population of billions of Romulans would result in the dissipation and destruction of Vulcan culture; compare it to the many indigenous languages and cultures that have been destroyed through assimilation here on Earth. So, it's a complex issue, which is as it should be.)

Saving Romulus :techman:

As for duty 2), that of saving Romulus:
In Star Trek Into Darkness, Spock Prime mentions that he had made a solemn promise never to interfere in the Enterprise crew's destiny ... but then he did.

One might imagine that after much contemplation, he decides that since the timeline has already been altered beyond repair, he might as well fulfill his duty to Romulus; the lives of billions of people are at stake, after all.
(In fact, according to the prequel comic, the subspace hypernova poses a threat to a large portion of the galaxy, so we're really talking about trillions of lives.)

We might presume that Hobus is a threat in both universes; that the potential to go subspace-hypernova was sealed into its formation, millions of years ago.

Furthermore, you could throw in some treknobabble about how it's a macroscopic (macrocosmic, even) quantum subspace phenomenon, and as such, there's no guarantee that it will explode at the same time it did in the Prime universe. It might never go off ... or it could off tomorrow.
In any case, so long as Hobus remains, the Romulans will never be safe.
(...and again, the Countdown comic suggests that neither is the Federation.)

The olive branch

So, imagine Spock Prime decides to provide the Romulans with information about the Hobus hypernova. And he does so through the Starfleet Diplomatic Corps, so that it can be seen as a gesture of good will from the entire Federation.

This sets the stage for a joint science mission between the Federation and the Romulan Star Empire; the birth of a peace process, and perhaps a step towards Vulcan-Romulan reunification.

== Plot synopsis: Prologue ==

I'd like to see the Enterprise transporting a delegation of Vulcan scientists and diplomats to Romulus, including one particularly important VIP: Spock Prime.

During the trip, there is ample opportunity for both Kirk and Spock to speak to Spock Prime.
He still refuses to tell them about their possible futures, but instead focuses on their shared traumatic experiences with Nero.

Kirk and Spock are both professionals, and on an intellectual level they know better than to hold the entire Romulan species responsible for the acts of a madman with too much power.
Nevertheless, through their conversations, Spock Prime notices that they still harbor some resentment against the Romulans on an emotional level. It's important to note that both have grown up with stories that depict the Romulans as bogeymen, and their main contact with Romulans prior to Nero's incursion was reading about the Romulan War in history class.
So, though they realize Nero was not representative of the Romulan people, the incident nevertheless served to reinforce a prejudiced view that they already bore with them.
Spock tries to alleviate this by telling them of the Romulan people's many virtues: Their philosophy, their culture, their art ... and, most important of all, their diversity.

He explains that while some Romulans still resent the Vulcans who they feel banished them from their homeworld, most desire nothing more than to live in peace.

If one wishes to throw in some cameos, the trip between New Vulcan and Romulus could provide some opportunity for that.
We migh imagine Kirk having daydreams about Kirk Prime, or about Picard and Geordi putting the finishing touches on the Jellyfish.
When he informs Spock Prime of this, the old Vulcan is noticeably troubled. He informs him that his father suffered from Bendii syndrome, a Vulcan neurological illness which can cause a loss of emotional control, sometimes manifesting through the projection of emotions onto others.
He mentions that the illness is suspected to be hereditary, so he has long wondered if he would fall prey to it. However, since the other Vulcans in the delegations have not yet picked up on it, the illness can't have progressed very far; the fact that Kirk has had these visions must be a result of their mind meld on Delta Vega.

== Plot: Conflict ==

Once on Romulus, the Vulcan delegation goes with a small security detail to confer with their Romulan counterparts. Representatives of the Enterprise crew, meanwhile, are to be led to their lodgings before a formal banquet with Romulan dignitaries.

On the way there, Kirk falls to his knees, screaming with pain. Two seconds later, a loud boom is heard.
It's not long before they discover what's happened. The Vulcan delegation (together with their Romulan counterparts) have been targeted in a terrorist attack. What Kirk felt was a vision of Spock's overwhelming final sensations, transmitted through the telepathic connection they developed in the mind meld on Delta Vega.

The Romulan government condemns the attack, and the loss of life on both sides. They promise the Federation their full cooperation in the investigation, and that they will dedicate significant funds to the endeavor.

Now we ask ourselves...

Can the Enterprise crew keep the science mission and the peace process alive in the face of such a tragedy?​

Can they trust the good will of the Romulans, even when their worst preconceived notions have just been so spectacularly confirmed?​

...and even if they trust the Romulan government and the majority population, can they ever truly have peace with a culture that houses such destructive elements?
Fringe elements they may be, but they are nevertheless capable of so much destruction.​


:wtf: Killing Spock – Rationale :weep:

I realize that killing Spock Prime reeks of shock value, but I feel that there is something beautiful about killing off the series' most iconic and long-standing character on the eve of the 50th anniversary.
Even more so if he dies in the line of duty to the ideal of Vulcan-Romulan reunification, which has been an important aspect of his character for 25 years.

Last but not least, it would cut the umbilical cord between the two universes, once and for all, and put the new crew to an incredible test.
 
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I think I can perfectly sum up the story ideas I'd prefer to see on the big screen as follows:


Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise. It's Mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilisations, and to boldly go where no-one has gone before."


There's your premise right there. :techman: Forget Earth-Under-Threat. Forget the likes of Klingons, Romulans and Borg. Forget having a central villain motivated by angst and revenge, or the tired plot device of having Starfleet-Officers-Gone-Bad. No, no, no, and no. Forget all those hoary old cliches. Instead, give us exploration, discovery, adventure... new life, and new civilisations. There has to be a way to craft a compelling storyline with danger, drama, intrigue, without falling back on the known and pre-defined Star Trek universe to provide the building-blocks of the story. The writers should open their imaginations to the possibilities of Star Trek, not limit themselves to making a 'greatest hits' package.

Boldly take the movie-going audience where they have never gone before. Because, surely, that was the whole point of rebooting the 'verse in the first place. :)
 
Set toward the end of the Enterprises 5 year mission. An augment worshipping nut (Brent Spiner) wakes up a furious Khan and he breaks out of Area 51 (now located on Ceti Alpha V) with Joachim (Taylor Kitsch) and several of his followers, hijacks science ship Reliant captained by Clark Terrell (Chiwetel Ejiofor) which is running tests on the new Genesis device (constructed by Carol Marcus) and plots revenge on Starfleet (with a personal vendetta against Kirk/Spock)

meanwhile the klingons have begun an invasion of the Federation (after the khanage in STID) led by the sinister Colonel Chang (Bryan Cranston) and the brutal Captain Kruge (Jason Momoa). As Admiral April (Harrison Ford) prepares Starfleet for a war that threatens to destroy the galaxy, the crew of the Enterprise must battle to prevent universal Armageddon..

title = 'Star Trek Into Vengeance'

tagline - After darkness...lies vengeance!
 
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I think I can perfectly sum up the story ideas I'd prefer to see on the big screen as follows:


Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise. It's Mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilisations, and to boldly go where no-one has gone before."


There's your premise right there. :techman: Forget Earth-Under-Threat. Forget the likes of Klingons, Romulans and Borg. Forget having a central villain motivated by angst and revenge, or the tired plot device of having Starfleet-Officers-Gone-Bad. No, no, no, and no. Forget all those hoary old cliches. Instead, give us exploration, discovery, adventure... new life, and new civilisations. There has to be a way to craft a compelling storyline with danger, drama, intrigue, without falling back on the known and pre-defined Star Trek universe to provide the building-blocks of the story. The writers should open their imaginations to the possibilities of Star Trek, not limit themselves to making a 'greatest hits' package.

Boldly take the movie-going audience where they have never gone before. Because, surely, that was the whole point of rebooting the 'verse in the first place. :)
Yes, but we're looking for how YOU would write the story pitch - not how anyone else woulda, coulda, or shoulda. ;)
 
I think I can perfectly sum up the story ideas I'd prefer to see on the big screen as follows:


Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise. It's Mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilisations, and to boldly go where no-one has gone before.


There's your premise right there. :techman: Forget Earth-Under-Threat. Forget the likes of Klingons, Romulans and Borg. Forget having a central villain motivated by angst and revenge, or the tired plot device of having Starfleet-Officers-Gone-Bad. No, no, no, and no. Forget all those hoary old cliches. Instead, give us exploration, discovery, adventure... new life, and new civilisations. There has to be a way to craft a compelling storyline with danger, drama, intrigue, without falling back on the known and pre-defined Star Trek universe to provide the building-blocks of the story. The writers should open their imaginations to the possibilities of Star Trek, not limit themselves to making a 'greatest hits' package.

Boldly take the movie-going audience where they have never gone before. Because, surely, that was the whole point of rebooting the 'verse in the first place. :)
Yes, but we're looking for how YOU would write the story pitch - not how anyone else woulda, coulda, or shoulda. ;)

Okay, I'll bite. :D Give me some time to figure something out in my head (something which will be in accordance with my 'guidelines' above: no old enemies, no threat to Earth, no insane officers-gone-bad and no knock-offs of Khan/TWOK)... I'll get back to you with something soon. ;)
 
From another thread:

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=10619152#post10619152

We'll probably end up with a film where everyone is chasing an Iconian artifact of incredible power. First it'll get picked up by Harry Mudd, who gets captured by the Klingons then the Romulans will ambush the Klingons then Kirk will sneak aboard the lead Romulan ship (with Kirk in full Romulan makeup) to steal the artifact while Spock woo's the female Romulan commander. At the end, they'll dump the artifact into the sun.
 
Okay, I'll bite. :D Give me some time to figure something out in my head (something which will be in accordance with my 'guidelines' above: no old enemies, no threat to Earth, no insane officers-gone-bad and no knock-offs of Khan/TWOK)... I'll get back to you with something soon. ;)
Excellent! Looking forward to it! :)
 
With Mr. Nimoy's passing, I'm sure they were do one of two things to honor his memory as both an actor and for the character of Spock Prime. 1) they will do a in memoriam for the end credits and 2) they will probably have AR Spock get a message from New Vulcan saying that the Elder Spock or Spock Prime has passed away.
 
Although Mr. Nimoy has passed, it doesn't mean the elder Spock has to as well. If anything, I'd prefer they took the Babylon 5 approach - where someone says he's taken a ship and gone exploring "beyond the outer rim."
 
There are plenty of other threads to mourn Leonard Nimoy's passing.

This one is to give us your story pitches for the next Star Trek movie - a paragraph or two, or more for the ambitious writer.

Sadly, most of this thread has been derailed, but one hopes there are a few more good, creative ideas among us that people would like to express.
 
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