Star Trek 12: TNG movie idea

[Alex1939]

The chances of this happening are zero, but the idea came to me, I liked it, and thought I would share.

It would be cool if another director developed a movie off the countdown comics for the TNG cast (and no, not a recast, but the actual cast).

It could include Bana as Nero, and really delve into his backstory (the way ST11 should have) and include most of what happens in the comics. I don't think that would need to fill a movie, but it would be interesting to move forward and see what happens post the destruction of Romulus and basically the Romulan empire.

I think there would need to be more substance and a different arc for the second half of the film, but that would be a good launching point into another TNG film. I think it could even be done with much less budget than ST11 and have more substance over style (which is why I suggest a different director than Abrams).

A must for the movie would be correct characterization of the TNG crew, and not hiding the fact they've aged. In other words, I don't want Riker in fist to fist combat, or Picard riding a dune buggy... I think a more political movie, and ship to ship combat would be fine.

I'm sure nothing like that would happen, but I would find it very cool and would be awesome if we had nuTrek movies coming out as well as TNG movies. I'm sure other TNG fans at least would enjoy that.

 

[Lynn Minmay]

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[Alex1939]

Thanks for your insightful comment to my idea.


Regardless of the fact it won't happen, I still think it's interesting.

What's going to happen to the area's occupied by the Romulan Empire post-Romulus destruction? Will there be an invasion by an opposing force? Klingons? (regardless of people's opinions that Klingons are overdone, I disagree) Breen? A new race? There could be interesting storylines regarding the species formerly under Romulan control.

I'm sure a large portion of the Romulan fleet was not destroyed. So what will they do? Re-unify with Vulcans? Seek revenge?

Also, Picard shared an important "sharing of the minds" with Sarek. That could present some interesting storylines given the context of ST11.


Again, it would never happen. But done right, marketed right, I could see some success. If nuTrek fans are interested in Nero, this would provide backstory on screen. TNG fans would be interested in another story for sure. And I'd like to believe there is room for more in-depth storytelling in science fiction and Star Trek than ST11 provides. And along with nuTrek, if it continues in the fast paced action adventure route, I could see oldTrek do well in a different direction, i.e. in-depth science fiction story relying on less action.

I just think the potential for complementary movies is intriguing.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I'd like to see more on the Romulans, definitely. The new status quo raises interesting possibilities. If the Romulans are smart, they would make their move couched in "humanitarian" motives towards the new Vulcan colony. They've been handed an amazing gift - their foes are pretty much helpless now and they can't be blamed for any of it.

But Nero struck me as a very generic Trek type villain. No interest in seeing him again. The 23rd C is a more interesting scenario for the Vulcan-Romulan "issues" than the 24th. And TNG is over and done with; I guess they could recast the characters someday but I gotta wonder why anyone would bother.

 

[hellsgate]

Actually, I'd like to see this idea as a fan fic first & see what kinds of feedback it would generate from the "purist" fandom of Trek, to newbies brought in by the Abramsverse film, to some of the more moderate Shatnerverse & slash fandoms.

 

[Alex1939]

But Nero struck me as a very generic Trek type villain.

Which is exactly why I suggest incorporating the "countdown" comics into a new TNG movie.

Think of the first 30-45 minutes of the movie as the "countdown" comics on screen. Then Nero becomes and actual person and there is proper backstory to Nero.

The rest of the film goes on from the destruction of Romulus and what happens next.


I agree, it seems too many longtime and new fans would rather just see oldTrek die than ever breathe again. I for one would line up for a new TNG movie, and a proper sendoff. Sorry to go against the grain.

All hail nuTrek, all piss on oldTrek's grave!

 

[JTK2099]

I agree with you in principle Alex. I would love to see the TNG crew get a proper send-off. They did their "Final Frontier" but never got their "Undiscovered Country."

 

[Alrik]

I agree with you in principle Alex. I would love to see the TNG crew get a proper send-off. They did their "Final Frontier" but never got their "Undiscovered Country."

Interesting that you put it that way. TNG's 'Undiscovered Country', as it stands, was probably AGT. Would I have liked to have seen a true send off for TNG? You bettcha. That is why, while I applaud the OP for original thinking, I would have no interest in seeing something like this. Don't get me wrong. Its not that I think this is a 'bad' idea. It would most likely make some pretty good Fan Fic. The problem is, it is just returning to the thinking that turned Star Trek into a "members only" club in the first place.

STAR TREK made Star Trek accessible to the masses by renewing the wonder and excitement that TOS stirred up all those years ago, while not forgetting the all important aspect of focussing on the relationships between the characters. As a 37 year fan of Trek, I look forward to going forward. While TNG is in a dead heat with TOS as my favorite incarnation of Trek, I really don't have any desire to go backwards. Unfortunately TNG had its chance to shine, but B&B and Baird blew it.

 

[bryce]

I wonder what would happen - back in the original 'verse - if, after a time of turmoil and reactionary militarism in the wake of Romulus' destruction...cooler heads eventually prevail, and for the sake of survival...the Romulans ask to join the Federation?

Could the Federation (esp. after the events of the "Destiny" novels) handle absorbing the entire remains of the former Romulan Star Empire?

Would the Klingons threaten to break off relations - or even go to war with - the Federation if they allowed Romulus to join...?

 

[Temis the Vorta]

But Nero struck me as a very generic Trek type villain.

Which is exactly why I suggest incorporating the "countdown" comics into a new TNG movie.

Think of the first 30-45 minutes of the movie as the "countdown" comics on screen. Then Nero becomes and actual person and there is proper backstory to Nero.

If I knew what the Countdown comics were about, that might make more sense to me. But if they actually treat the Romulans as Romulans and not just any old enemy aliens, of which Trek has about half a million, then I am in favor of their approach.

By treating Romulans as Romulans, I mean, what's their problem? That Vulcans' very existence represents an ideological rebuke to them, and that underlies all their hostility.

Otherwise, why not make detente with the Federation? There's something driving them to be hostile specifically to the Federation, that goes beyond the sort of border disputes they might have with Klingons et al. And that "something" is what distinguishes them from Trek's half a million other enemy aliens, who don't all deserve to have movies about them made.

The rest of the film goes on from the destruction of Romulus and what happens next.

The Romulans try to take over the Vulcan colony world maybe? If the Vulcans found a nice, hot, volcanic world to live on, that would also be prime real estate for Romulans. Plus the Romulans aren't going to give up imposing their philosophy on Vulcans and finally ending the challenge they pose.

I agree, it seems too many longtime and new fans would rather just see oldTrek die than ever breathe again. I for one would line up for a new TNG movie, and a proper sendoff. Sorry to go against the grain.

What does any of this have to do with TNG? The Vulcans and Romulans could be integrated into good stories in the future, and the Rommies not used in a generic fashion, without any reference to TNG.

and for the sake of survival...the Romulans ask to join the Federation?

I have enough faith in the Rommies that if this did occur, the Feds would be sorry because the Rommies would take over!

Could the Federation (esp. after the events of the "Destiny" novels) handle absorbing the entire remains of the former Romulan Star Empire?

Not likely. The Rommies would never behave themselves. They are convinced of their inherent superiority - they'd run the Fed or destroy it.

 

[DeadmeatDiggory]

Yeah, but if memory serves STXI and Countdown don't match up... Classic Spock says "He called himself Nero" indicating that the first time he had met Nero was after the destruction of Romulus, however he and Nero had been working with Nero for weeks before hand.

But I'd love to see more post-Next Gen Era stories. As much I enjoyed the new movie, I have a real big problem with Paramount throwing away 40 Years of storyline because they were too set in their ways to do something different with Trek. I might sure, reboot a series like BSG (it only had one year, was essentially a flop) but not a show that had six series, ten movies, and hundreds of novels.

Okay, I've vented. I'm good.

 

[ms2343]

That is interesting but I think it has to go forward!

What will make it another great movie is an original story. The sky is now literally the limit and the bar will be set high.

Would be interesting to explore when Kirk met the woman who eventually had his son. Khan would be interesting but its lacking the whole set up and 20 years of burning hatred. The time period is pretty much around where the original series was filmed, so why not do some wild adventure along those lines? There is room to grow, and a good new cast.