The ability to carve wood strikes me as being similar, and what was done with some of the ruin of the WTC to get the U.S.S. New York is certainly along those lines.
Star Ships
- Thread starter aridas sofia
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Oh, I understand the history, but I just wonder if she would have made more sense being a rebuild of a Baton Rogue or similar class vessel? Maybe a variant cruiser with a more familiar secondary hull?
Nice designs, only the Agincourt is a little dissapointing, not that it isn't a good design but its simply not outrageous enough! 
the WW-1 Era battleship HMS Agincourt was the longest battleship of her time with the largest displacement the largest amount of main gun turrets ever installed on a battleship (7) with the largest amount of main guns ever mounted on a battleship (14) and with the largest amount of secondary guns (20 6" + 10 3") installed, any ship with the name Agincourt should be something special. 
the WW-1 Era battleship HMS Agincourt was the longest battleship of her time with the largest displacement the largest amount of main gun turrets ever installed on a battleship (7) with the largest amount of main guns ever mounted on a battleship (14) and with the largest amount of secondary guns (20 6" + 10 3") installed, any ship with the name Agincourt should be something special. 
Cool!
^ Actually, I owe that luxury to the success of Apple Computer.
^ Actually, I owe that luxury to the success of Apple Computer.
It's a little known bit of Trek Trivia that the work of the SFPO was handled by an Apple II+...
This was a side-effect of budgetary issues in the appropriation committee after having actually decided to pay for all the ships in the Star Fleet Technical manual.
Actually, all the work of SFPO was handled on a Sanyo MBC-555. My loyalty to Apple is as an investor, more than as a user. Though I certainly would have owned a Mac in 1984 if I could have afforded one.
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Don't worry, I'm pretty much convinced that no one back then could afford a Mac. But, heck, at the time, I was given a TRS-80 MC-10 and was quite happy with it.
And, yes, I made some Star Trek games for that tiny thing too.
Well, my cousin had a Mac then. He replaced his Lisa with it. (We just had the Apple ][e.Don't worry, I'm pretty much convinced that no one back then could afford a Mac. But, heck, at the time, I was given a TRS-80 MC-10 and was quite happy with it.
And, yes, I made some Star Trek games for that tiny thing too.
Ohhh look! Spaceships!
Love the Cheron and the Agincourt. Are those hollow "fins" a type of heat radiator? Very neat idea. The turrets are cool too, never thought of that.
That's the thing. I look at all these designs and I'm like "damn that's cool...I never think of anything like that!"
Awsome work.
That's the thing. I look at all these designs and I'm like "damn that's cool...I never think of anything like that!"
Awsome work.
Yeah. They are the ancestors of the small fins on the backs of the original Enterprise's nacelles. A detail Franz Joseph termed an intercooler, and that I take to be a radiator purging heat from the reactors in the nacelles. In the later (TMP and forward) nacelles they are gone, because the reactors are no longer in the nacelles.
Again, bigger weapons that evolve as time passes into smaller weapons, and that in the case of the original Enterprise are so small they can barely be seen.
I tried to mix the look of naval and WW2 aircraft turrets with the retro-Trek coolness of some of Masao Okazaki's designs from the Starfleet Museum. His work is excellent and influenced my thinking on those turrets.Thanks!
Something I've been thinking about...
It's my rethinking of my old associate Mike Morrissette's Detroyat. Mike intended his ship to be a post-Constitution design, and yet because he adopted the Rick's Spaceflight Chronology timeline, fans of the time mistook what he was doing for a predecessor. I want to respect Mike's wishes, and so have designed something from around 2215 that will fill the role people have assigned to Detroyat. As for the NCC number, folks that are familiar with the Ships of the Star Fleet books will know that we sometimes reused NCC numbers. Or, I'll change my mind and rename this Detroyat (with Mike's permission) and his could be a rebuild. Whatever works.
Anyhow, the idea here is that destroyers pre-2215 are very limited things, built strictly for support roles near system and as part of convoys. The Oryol project is part of the rethinking of that way of operating. It is a "heavy destroyer", so designated to differentiate it from the much smaller destroyers of the time. Within a decade the single-nacelle Saladin will continue this extension of destroyers into unsupported deep space duty. later, ships like Oryol will be reclassified "battlecrusiers" and the single-nacelle destroyers will give way to tandem designs that are built as light versions of the "heavy destroyer" design -- two nacelles and modular weapons sled capacity.
Here, Oryol is equipped with a 2215 weapons sled that carries enhanced deflectors, torpedo launchers, and four laser cannons. The ship is built up from Baton Rouge elements, and nacelles developed for Valiant.
This is another WIP, as I'm not happy with the looks of the sled -- especially the guns -- yet. Also, that impulse drive needs work. But I figured it was far enough along to share.
It's my rethinking of my old associate Mike Morrissette's Detroyat. Mike intended his ship to be a post-Constitution design, and yet because he adopted the Rick's Spaceflight Chronology timeline, fans of the time mistook what he was doing for a predecessor. I want to respect Mike's wishes, and so have designed something from around 2215 that will fill the role people have assigned to Detroyat. As for the NCC number, folks that are familiar with the Ships of the Star Fleet books will know that we sometimes reused NCC numbers. Or, I'll change my mind and rename this Detroyat (with Mike's permission) and his could be a rebuild. Whatever works.
Anyhow, the idea here is that destroyers pre-2215 are very limited things, built strictly for support roles near system and as part of convoys. The Oryol project is part of the rethinking of that way of operating. It is a "heavy destroyer", so designated to differentiate it from the much smaller destroyers of the time. Within a decade the single-nacelle Saladin will continue this extension of destroyers into unsupported deep space duty. later, ships like Oryol will be reclassified "battlecrusiers" and the single-nacelle destroyers will give way to tandem designs that are built as light versions of the "heavy destroyer" design -- two nacelles and modular weapons sled capacity.
Here, Oryol is equipped with a 2215 weapons sled that carries enhanced deflectors, torpedo launchers, and four laser cannons. The ship is built up from Baton Rouge elements, and nacelles developed for Valiant.
This is another WIP, as I'm not happy with the looks of the sled -- especially the guns -- yet. Also, that impulse drive needs work. But I figured it was far enough along to share.
Something I've been thinking about...
It's my rethinking of my old associate Mike Morrissette's Detroyat. Mike intended his ship to be a post-Constitution design, and yet because he adopted the Rick's Spaceflight Chronology timeline, fans of the time mistook what he was doing for a predecessor. I want to respect Mike's wishes, and so have designed something from around 2215 that will fill the role people have assigned to Detroyat. As for the NCC number, folks that are familiar with the Ships of the Star Fleet books will know that we sometimes reused NCC numbers. Or, I'll change my mind and rename this Detroyat (with Mike's permission) and his could be a rebuild. Whatever works.
Anyhow, the idea here is that destroyers pre-2215 are very limited things, built strictly for support roles near system and as part of convoys. The Oryol project is part of the rethinking of that way of operating. It is a "heavy destroyer", so designated to differentiate it from the much smaller destroyers of the time. Within a decade the single-nacelle Saladin will continue this extension of destroyers into unsupported deep space duty. later, ships like Oryol will be reclassified "battlecrusiers" and the single-nacelle destroyers will give way to tandem designs that are built as light versions of the "heavy destroyer" design -- two nacelles and modular weapons sled capacity.
Here, Oryol is equipped with a 2215 weapons sled that carries enhanced deflectors, torpedo launchers, and four laser cannons. The ship is built up from Baton Rouge elements, and nacelles developed for Valiant.
This is another WIP, as I'm not happy with the looks of the sled -- especially the guns -- yet. Also, that impulse drive needs work. But I figured it was far enough along to share.
looks good for a WIP
Ah, I hate to see the Detroyat replaced... It was my introduction to fandom, actually, seeing an ad in Starlog magazine for her blueprints. I drew that ship as a wee lad from that advert alone, and (with the Technical Manual) started this whole ball rollin'.
As for the new ship, I think it's hitting the 'sore spot' with me because of the number of Greeblies that are on her. To me, if the ship isn't largely smooth, with most the detail close to flush with the hull, it's skirting away from being 'Star Trek' in design. It's the aft pods that do it for me with this one. It's not a huge detail, I know, but for some reason it sets the look off.
Mileage may vary.
As for the new ship, I think it's hitting the 'sore spot' with me because of the number of Greeblies that are on her. To me, if the ship isn't largely smooth, with most the detail close to flush with the hull, it's skirting away from being 'Star Trek' in design. It's the aft pods that do it for me with this one. It's not a huge detail, I know, but for some reason it sets the look off.
Mileage may vary.
I suppose. This is an earlier design, and meant to be a forerunner for a whole series of destroyers that mount weapons sleds, so it's hard to show that without, you know, a sled. Maybe I can make the lasers look less cannon. Or is that canon? And of course, there is precedent -- actually, given what you can turn up looking around here, precedents -- for weapons pods and other various attachments breaking up the smoothness of some fan-made Trek designs.
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Schematic_TMP_Huntress.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Schematic_TMP_Williamson.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Schematic_TMP_Soyuz.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Schematic_TMP_Soyuz_Variant.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/tos/Schematic_Fed_Cortez_DC.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Schematic_TMP_Kearsarge.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Schematic_TMP_Wizard.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Schematic_TMP_Hatfield.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Schematic_TMP_Kiev.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Schematic_TMP_Belisarius.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Schematic_TMP_Longbow.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Schematic_TMP_Abbe.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Schematic_TMP_Jiangwei.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Schematic_TMP_Avenger.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/tos/Schematic_Fed_Hotspur.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/tos/Schematic_Fed_Evarts.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Schematic_TMP_Haseo.gif
http://www.pixelsagas.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Schematic_TMP_Maguellanes.gif
While I'm inclined to agree with the general sentiment, in fairness to aridas sofia this ship has fewer greeblies than Reliant.
Marian
Well, in fairness to the poster, I said I was not happy with that sled. So I sort of agree that the guns look a bit darty. But for me that's not the problem -- they just look underthought. Too "one oval mixed with a rectangle". I was actually going for a distant ancestor to the megaphasers on Reliant, and following that, these need some more nuance and detail.
Hmmm, Aridas, you know that the Soyuz is not exactly fan-made?
Personally, i like the Oryol, again, i like how the nacelles reference the Horizon.
Personally, i like the Oryol, again, i like how the nacelles reference the Horizon.
