The dialogue made it sound like he sobered up after the events of FC.
Stamets and Cochrane
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Yeah, that doesn't really make his characterization much better, does it?
It shows people can change.
I wonder if Cochrane's alcoholism was due to the pressures of the upcoming first flight and wasn't something that Cochrane had even a year before? T'Pol mentioned it, but that might be something that the Vulcan captain in FC noted and word spread through the Vulcan from that one brief encounter.
Once the flight was successful Cochrane's drinking could have subsided to a more normal level fairly quickly.
Once the flight was successful Cochrane's drinking could have subsided to a more normal level fairly quickly.
Cochrane was their Roddenberry expy. The whole point was to show the man behind the myth.
It's a classic, really: did the human inventors ever really invent anything new, or did they just discover something that had been invented millennia ago elsewhere (and then discovered, that is, independently invented again, by countless millions before the Earthlings got to it)?
Cochrane might be famous for a while, among Earthlings (which is the full extent of what Spock says in their encounter). But the fame wouldn't last in a Federation consisting of plenty of folks who have their own not-inventors, some predating the Earthling, some coming slightly after him.
Local not-inventors of transporters or phasers or tractor beams would be less interesting than local not-inventors of warp, because the former is just technology that eventually gets shared, while the latter is decisive in making interstellar contact more often than not.
Timo Saloniemi
Cochrane might be famous for a while, among Earthlings (which is the full extent of what Spock says in their encounter). But the fame wouldn't last in a Federation consisting of plenty of folks who have their own not-inventors, some predating the Earthling, some coming slightly after him.
Local not-inventors of transporters or phasers or tractor beams would be less interesting than local not-inventors of warp, because the former is just technology that eventually gets shared, while the latter is decisive in making interstellar contact more often than not.
Timo Saloniemi
I wasn't arguing with you
I was agreeing
Archer not being mentioned is a bigger issue, yes
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Maybe Cochrane had just been on a downward spiral ever since WW III. If he believed this was the end, and that humanity couldn't possibly recover from a war like that, he might just throw in the proverbial towel and turn to booze.
And he wouldn't be the only one.
Plus, it would give him a logical reason for doing an about-face and striving to improve his life after ST:FC. Now he realizes that there IS hope, that human civilization CAN recover and prosper again.
I meant in daily conversation
Do you remember the names of all the inventors of all failed technology we ever had? Hell, even the inventors of all succesfull tech??
Mushroom usage won't be an issue once the Strategic Fungus Reserve at Gamma Indii VIII come online next year...
They need a reason why it can't be used even once, otherwise Voyager and DS9, whose plots hinge on travelling huge distances, are rendered invalid.They'll probably figure out that the Spore Drive is harming everybody onboard genetically everytime they use it.
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My guess is that at some point the Mycelial network will be rendered unusable for transportation.
I guess. They cannot destroy it though, season one established that will destroy all life in the multiverse... somehow.
A safe bet.
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