ST3 Reportedly Being Filmed in Vancouver in 2016

[USS Intrepid]

I have no idea what grounds, sorry.

Here's the thing, I'd rather have *my* Star Trek back (which is entirely a personal preference thing), but I'm not so deluded to grab onto any cock-eyed conspiracy theory just to make myself happy.

Besides, it's not like I hate the Abrams movies either. And I stand by what I wrote; Pegg could potentially do a good job here.

 

[Campe]

So, what's with the lawsuit?

Para misjudged the crowd on that one. He is getting savaged with memes, and comments and even a few people packing up and leaving the group.

Two different actual attorneys have commented on the thread.

Matt Weaver Para, it is that one attorney's opinion that this violates consumer protection laws. There are no absolutes. I'd love for him or her to convince me--or better yet, a judge and/or jury--that a quote in a press release constitutes fraud in advertising.

How many actors have been associated with this long-in-production Steve Jobs bio-pic? Was the production company being fraudulent every time they said so-and-so would star in the movie but ultimately left?

Jeff B. Smith Ok I'm gonna throw all the legal reasons why this won't fly aside. I'm wondering how to calculate damages. If the claim was that people were damaged because they spent money because they were induced by false advertising, after the first showings, and after all b the initial reviews, wouldn't people then know about the "truth" and then decide not to go. I'm not just talking about opening weekend. I'm just talking about those very first preview shows. Theoretically after the word got out about the "false advertising " the only legit plaintiffs are those who saw the first shows.

Matt Weaver I thought the movies were shit. This just isn't actionable

I work as a healthcare law paralegal but yeah, that just sounds like total malarkey. There's no case! How can you prove false advertising when nothing has been advertised? Or are we talking about Trek 09 and STID? Its still Star Trek. It has all of the familiar names and concepts.

Point 1: Even if he does have an attorney, it is more than likely that a judge wouldn't hear it.

Point 2: If a judge DOES hear the case, Paramount can afford some good legal counsel. The case will be struck down so quickly, Para or whoever is suing won't know what hit him.

 

[BillJ]

Guys, I hesitate to give any comfort to those morons, but Drew McWeeny's column at Hitfix discussing the Pegg announcement has a little familiar sounding cautionary stuff in it. He's always been well-sourced on the Bad Robot Trek movies.

I don't know...

The problem is that since Roberto Orci vacated the director's chair on this film, there have been some heated discussions about what to do with the series. I hear not everyone is united on moving forward with the movies, and I'm curious if there will come a point when a TV version is more economically attractive than the feature model, or if Paramount ever tries to juggle both at the same time again.

I didn't think Paramount even had a TV division anymore. Why would they be debating making a TV series if CBS owns the rights?

 

[Campe]

^ That is a good question.

 

[USS Intrepid]

He may have simply mis-spoken (typed).

 

[Dales]

they cant surely be filming, the script is not done.

 

[Campe]

And I'll admit, that is a point that concerns me. Regardless of the whole ParaLeslie thing, I think that if Paramount has issue with the Pegg draft, the studio may miss the window for the 50th anniversary.

 

[BillJ]

And I'll admit, that is a point that concerns me. Regardless of the whole ParaLeslie thing, I think that if Paramount has issue with the Pegg draft, the studio may miss the window for the 50th anniversary.

This type of stuff used to bother me. But I'm at the point, if they make it, I'll be there. If they don't make it, I'll find something else to do.

There's plenty of Trek to keep me busy regardless.

 

[USS Intrepid]

And I'll admit, that is a point that concerns me. Regardless of the whole ParaLeslie thing, I think that if Paramount has issue with the Pegg draft, the studio may miss the window for the 50th anniversary.

This type of stuff used to bother me. But I'm at the point, if they make it, I'll be there. If they don't make it, I'll find something else to do.

There's plenty of Trek to keep me busy regardless.

I'll be disappointed if we don't get something for the fiftieth, but generally I agree.

(TNG Mini Series please - okay never gonna happen but I can dream. Although, X Files is coming back so you never know.)

 

[Campe]

And I'll admit, that is a point that concerns me. Regardless of the whole ParaLeslie thing, I think that if Paramount has issue with the Pegg draft, the studio may miss the window for the 50th anniversary.

This type of stuff used to bother me. But I'm at the point, if they make it, I'll be there. If they don't make it, I'll find something else to do.

There's plenty of Trek to keep me busy regardless.

I'll be disappointed if we don't get something for the fiftieth, but generally I agree.

(TNG Mini Series please - okay never gonna happen but I can dream. Although, X Files is coming back so you never know.)

And I think that's where I'm at too. Normally? Like if this was back in 2012 looking forward to STID? I probably wouldn't have cared. We had a fun movie in ST09 and if they followed up with it, great. If not, that's fine too. But this is the 50th anniversary. Kind of a big deal.

 

[Mudd]

I suspect that Paramount will back Lin's play because that's why they hired him - they have enough confidence in him to let him lead.

Which may have been the problem with Orci - Abrams may have pushed through some things that the studio heads were iffy about because they had confidence in him. Orci was an unknown and untested quantity, and when doubts arose about some aspect of the script or production he couldn't overcome any executive timidity.

 

[Bill Peters]

as a Friend of mine on TrekMovie said in Response to a Para Believer:

Several? I’ve heard of exactly ONE script being rejected–the first Orci/Payne/McKay script. That’s it.

What we KNOW:
-Orci/Payne/McKay (OPM) had a story, which they wrote as a screenplay. (“Story” and “screenplay” are two distinct things, as shown by the separate credits for each.)
-Orci was set to direct that script, but then stepped down/was kicked out.
-That OPM script was rejected. (Story #1, script #1)
-Orci said that he remains attached as producer and was working on a new story. That’s story #2. He said he hoped that story would be accepted.
-Justin Lin was attached as director.
-Pegg & Jung were confirmed as writers. They could be writing something totally new, or they could be writing the story (story #2) that Orci mentioned being hopeful about after becoming just a producer.

EVERYTHING else is speculation, unless I’ve missed a confirmed story somewhere along the line. (Such as any mention of Orci’s second story being rejected.)

Screenwriting note: It’s important to keep the terms “story” and “script/screenplay” separate in your minds. Producers often are credited with the story while writers are brought in to actually draft the screenplay. “Story” is the idea, the plot, the concept: “Script” or “screenplay” is the actual 100+ pages of dialogue and action written as a screenplay–instructions for putting the story on-screen.

You also said:”Since there isn’t a script, guest actors have not been signed on. For a movie starting to film in April, that is impossible.”

That is just total nonsense. It’s an untrue claim on your part–that it’s impossible to cast such roles in this time frame. It is very possible, not even a challenge for Hollywood casting agents and a professional director like Lin.

 

[Bill Peters]

I suspect that Paramount will back Lin's play because that's why they hired him - they have enough confidence in him to let him lead.

Which may have been the problem with Orci - Abrams may have pushed through some things that the studio heads were iffy about because they had confidence in him. Orci was an unknown and untested quantity, and when doubts arose about some aspect of the script or production he couldn't overcome any executive timidity.

So they left him as Producer cause of the Unknown factor? though he has done TV and other work? I guess we will not know tell Bob or Someone else talks abou it.

 

[Bill Peters]

Also CBS owns the TV Rights, Parmount owns the Movie rights so I figure that his Information may be off by a bit....

 

[BillJ]

CBS owns all the rights, Paramount pays a licensing fee.

 

[Mudd]

I suspect that Paramount will back Lin's play because that's why they hired him - they have enough confidence in him to let him lead.

Which may have been the problem with Orci - Abrams may have pushed through some things that the studio heads were iffy about because they had confidence in him. Orci was an unknown and untested quantity, and when doubts arose about some aspect of the script or production he couldn't overcome any executive timidity.

So they left him as Producer cause of the Unknown factor? though he has done TV and other work? I guess we will not know tell Bob or Someone else talks abou it.

I imagine they're happy enough with his work as a producer - whatever that is.

It's not even necessarily a question of real conflict or bad feelings toward Orci (although it could just as well be; we don't know) - simply "This is iffy and we really don't know that this guy can pull it off. He's insisting on this story, so we have to part ways." Orci might have overplayed his hand there.

Anything is possible. I should make up some inside sources and insist that I know this is for real - until events contradict it and I start backpedaling: the Para Mobius Maneuver.

 

[Campe]

CBS owns all the rights, Paramount pays a licensing fee.

Not so much actually...

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek_corporate_history

 

[Bill Peters]

TV - CBS Television Distribution, CBS Paramount Network Television/CBS Television Studios, CBS Corporation (2005 – present)
Viacom had purchased the CBS Corporation in 2000. They split in 2005. The old Viacom then became the CBS Corporation. Its holding Paramount Television became CBS Paramount Network Television. CBS Television Distribution formed soon after and took over distribution of past Star Trek shows. In 2009, CBS Paramount Network Television became CBS Television Studios; CBS Television Studios has production rights for new Trek series, though it has not (yet) produced any under that name.
Movies, DVDs - Paramount Pictures, Viacom (new) (2005 – present)
In the 2005 Viacom/CBS split, the old Viacom became the CBS Corporation and a new Viacom was created. This new company owns Paramount Pictures which owns the Trek films. Paramount Pictures produced Star Trek and Star Trek Into Darkness under license from CBS Television Studios. Paramount continues to also distribute DVDs of the TV series on behalf of CBS.

 

[Bill Peters]

I suspect that Paramount will back Lin's play because that's why they hired him - they have enough confidence in him to let him lead.

Which may have been the problem with Orci - Abrams may have pushed through some things that the studio heads were iffy about because they had confidence in him. Orci was an unknown and untested quantity, and when doubts arose about some aspect of the script or production he couldn't overcome any executive timidity.

So they left him as Producer cause of the Unknown factor? though he has done TV and other work? I guess we will not know tell Bob or Someone else talks abou it.

I imagine they're happy enough with his work as a producer - whatever that is.

It's not even necessarily a question of real conflict or bad feelings toward Orci (although it could just as well be; we don't know) - simply "This is iffy and we really don't know that this guy can pull it off. He's insisting on this story, so we have to part ways." Orci might have overplayed his hand there.

Anything is possible. I should make up some inside sources and insist that I know this is for real - until events contradict it and I start backpedaling: the Para Mobius Maneuver.

I will call anything that comes along those lines the Para Mobius Maneuver....Thanks for the Suggestion...

 

[Bill Peters]

Though the Para Mobius Maneuver is probably less fun then the Picard or Riker Maneuver...