ST09 Deepfake

[Khan 2.0]

getting better..
https://trekmovie.com/2020/09/24/wa...ley-into-trailer-for-kelvin-star-trek-movies/

 

[Relayer1]

It is. It'll be useable before long.

but should it be ?

 

[Kor]

This gave me just much of a gag reflex as other deepfake Star Trek and Star Wars videos. The uncanny valley has yet to be crossed.

Kor

 

[valkyrie013]

Okay.. So Spock is looking good, Kirk is not bad on most full face shots but crap on side or other views, McCoy is just crap. And Khan? "Shudders"

It'll get to a point where you can have complete fake actors and be lifelike.

 

[NCC-73515]

I'd say they're about halfway there

 

[Tosk]

The problem remains that no matter how smooth the facial alteration is, people have differently shaped/sized heads. Replacing only the face will never yield perfect results. And then there's the body too. (Kelley's head on Urban's frame is very odd) The best ones are when the body and head are already a pretty good match.

 

[Smellmet]

I can't deny it looks very impressive. How do they do it?

 

[UssGlenn]

The best ones are when the body and head are already a pretty good match.

See Tarkin in Rogue One for this approach, and while certainly better, still wasn't quite right. The lip movement is hard to get right, but it didn't bother me while watching.

 

[Tosk]

See Tarkin in Rogue One for this approach, and while certainly better, still wasn't quite right. The lip movement is hard to get right, but it didn't bother me while watching.

They didn't use "deep fake" tech for Rogue One though, of course. But yeah, our eyes and brains are so well trained as to what real people look like when they move, even the tiniest fraction of oddness is enough to give away the game. But they get closer every year.

 

[UssGlenn]

They didn't use "deep fake" tech for Rogue One though, of course.

Yes, I should have clarified. They still aren't quite there even with full CGI face and tracking dots, so it'll be a while before Deep fake gets there.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I can't deny it looks very impressive. How do they do it?

Something with computers, I think.

Or black magic.

 

[valkyrie013]

Itll get to a point where you input all the footage of an actor, get an actor with similar build/face/hair, and then put the old/dead actor's face on the new person. and it'll match, mostly.

 

[fireproof78]

Or black magic.

It's this.

 

[Danlav05]

Spock is near perfect
McCoy is quite good
Kirk better in some shots than others. Think Pine's head is slightly the wrong shape

This is not to everyone's tastes but I love it!

 

[Danlav05]

I'd say they're about halfway there

it's new technology constantly being developed and improved. That's how I see it

In oen shot he forgot to do the ears - Quinto's lobes are flat, Nimoy's were round

 

[WarpFactorZ]

Spock is near perfect
McCoy is quite good
Kirk better in some shots than others. Think Pine's head is slightly the wrong shape

This is not to everyone's tastes but I love it!

I agree with this. Spock/Nimoy was almost seamless. McCoy/Kelley was very good in most scenes. But for the majority of Kirk/Shatner, all I could see was Pine's face. Something not quite right there.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

See Tarkin in Rogue One for this approach, and while certainly better, still wasn't quite right. The lip movement is hard to get right, but it didn't bother me while watching.

Rogue One got away with it because Tarkin always looked kind of weird to begin with, even in live-action. So anything that's odd about the CGI version can be blamed on that.

Leia, OTOH...no excuse. They didn't even have to show her face! Just have Leia facing away from the camera, with the iconic hairstyle. That would have been enough. And we wouldn't have the fake Kewpie doll that we got.

 

[publiusr]

This might be the only way crossovers get done, and novels brought to screen.

 

[Khan 2.0]

Shatner on this DF
https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1309979613750112256