ST XI Enterprise conjecture

[Bill Morris]

Nice job, although I'd like it better with a black instead of white background.

But really it calls to attention just how far out of whack that trailer is, unless the nacelle positions change after the ship is hauled up and placed in orbit.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

Outstanding work, judexavier!!!!

Any chance of us getting the two missing views (ventral and aft)?

 

[B.J.]

Wow. I'm even more impressed now that I know you did this in 2D! Great work!

 

[Tom Servo]

I love it! And to do that in photoshop...wow. The only thing I dont like, is how close the nacelles are to each other. I hope on the real ship, they are a bit further apart. But other then that, awesome.

 

[Patrickivan]

You did a great job. Looks good- aside from the odd shapes on the nacelles...

It shouldn't say NCC-1701 though. I only know two ships that say NCC-1701

 

[judexavier]

Thanks again for the responses. I think the PC is stable again...(cross fingers)
I'm planning on the other 2 views, just haven't started them yet.

As for the registry number, I have layers set where I can turn them off...I had considered something like "NX-1700" perhaps.

 

[Patrickivan]

Thanks again for the responses. I think the PC is stable again...(cross fingers)
I'm planning on the other 2 views, just haven't started them yet.

As for the registry number, I have layers set where I can turn them off...I had considered something like "NX-1700" perhaps.

I think your work looks awesome. There's no need to change the registry. I was being facetious because I just don't want the trailer concept to be the Enterprise.

Though I wouldn't complain (a first for me ) if you did change the registry.

 

[JBElliott]

That's a very nice piece of work putting that together based on what's shown in the teaser. Very nice.

That said, I don't like what they showed in the teaser. I'd much rather have the production version of TOS Enterprise, or the "model" used in TOS-R. Though I know there's little hope in that.

 

[Colonel Midnight]

I like it -- with the exception of the nacelles. The "retro phaser big bulb" idea just screams... "WRONG!!!" to me. YMMV, of course.

Great job overall, though, with tying stuff together from the teaser, etc.

Cheers,
-CM-

 

[baxart]

Great Photoshop work!
I think your nacelle fins may be too large and tapered the wrong way.

I think this may be closer:

By baxart at 2008-04-10

 

[judexavier]

Wow! Baxart YES. Much more sleek, looks more like the scene where they are welding inbetween the fins. The way I had it, it looked as though it were supposed to go backwards or something

Very Nice.

 

[Captain Robert April]

The rendering looks pretty accurate to me, which is to say that it looks just as hideous as what we saw in the trailer.

Frankly, I wonder what sort of mindset it takes to say that the bloated monstrosity from the trailer is the same ship as this...

(Pay no attention to the Firefly class ship trailing along behind; they just took a wrong turn.)

 

[Tom Servo]

Everyone except us who know every bolt of the ship. And the only thing you can really say is "bloated" is the nacelles. But other then that, minus details that only we would notice....it looks pretty similar.

 

[dougkeenan]

Wow! Transposed against the trailer photo, your work looks spot on. Looks like the "Enterprise" lettering on the hull may be a little off. No matter, great job!

 

[ST-One]

The rendering looks pretty accurate to me, which is to say that it looks just as hideous as what we saw in the trailer.

Frankly, I wonder what sort of mindset it takes to say that the bloated monstrosity from the trailer is the same ship as this...

(Pay no attention to the Firefly class ship trailing along behind; they just took a wrong turn.)

Get over it and stop whining (it gets annoying) - they changed the design.

 

[Devon]

Most of the changes to the real 1701 design would appear to be made for the sake of changing it.

And of course that has NEVER been done in Star Trek right?

I think any changes are being done at the ship designer's vision (Ryan Church?) + whatever will look best for the big screen treatment.

 

[Warped9]

The rendering looks pretty accurate to me, which is to say that it looks just as hideous as what we saw in the trailer.

Frankly, I wonder what sort of mindset it takes to say that the bloated monstrosity from the trailer is the same ship as this...

(Pay no attention to the Firefly class ship trailing along behind; they just took a wrong turn.)

Get over it and stop whining (it gets annoying) - they changed the design.

Why should he? Why don't you get over the fact that J.J. and the post-production staff of Trek XI are hacks with no sense of taste or respect for what came before. Why don't you get over sucking up the company line? I find it plenty annoying seeing people fawn over a pile of refuse and dare claim, "Oh yeah, it's definitely the same ship and this unquestionably the same continuity as TOS." That's vomit inducing to no end.

BTW, CRA, that's a slick looking bit of work.

 

[baxart]

Well in the whole nacelle thing, I'm hoping for this:

By baxart at 2008-04-11

What I've done is take my nacelle tweek and pushed it further. What I did was scale down the nacelles until the bussard domes on judexavier's (sweet!) version was the same size as Masao's Starfleet museum version (with Masao's Connie scaled to the same length as judexavier's.) Then I did 8 layers of copy paste to lengthen the nacelle back to just over what judexavier's was. (I used the spacing of the inboard nacelle cooler as my guide.)

 

[starburst]

The things Id personally change would be....

1. The front end of the nacelles (which unfortuantly we are stuck with)
2. Move the torpedo launchers back to the underside of the saucer ala TOS

Other than that I think its pretty good, I get the demands for it to make sence as the precursor to the ship but Im still not convinced from the info about the movie that this would eventually become the E...more that this is the E (not having seen the script who knows)

 

[aridas sofia]

Well in the whole nacelle thing, I'm hoping for this:

By baxart at 2008-04-11

What I've done is take my nacelle tweek and pushed it further. What I did was scale down the nacelles until the bussard domes on judexavier's (sweet!) version was the same size as Masao's Starfleet museum version (with Masao's Connie scaled to the same length as judexavier's.) Then I did 8 layers of copy paste to lengthen the nacelle back to just over what judexavier's was. (I used the spacing of the inboard nacelle cooler as my guide.)

Vast improvement.

I see nothing wrong with speculating on what NCC-1701 might have looked like when it was launched. Since TMP, I have wondered whether that massive facelift was the first that Enterprise underwent. I've done my share of speculation on what an early E might have looked like, drawing inspiration from retrofuture and art deco coupled with Matt Jefferies'[/i] own ruminations. It's fun, and it makes me appreciate all the more just how hard it is to conjure a pleasing design.

My problem with the OP's concept is not the style or the technique. His work is impeccable. It is the proportioning of the various parts to each other. baxart has done an admirable job of remedying that, and integrating the best parts of judexavier's work into a harmonious whole.