Spoilers ST Strange New Worlds - Starships and Technology Season Three Discussion
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Probably not permanent, but it's going to be sitting in Dry Dock for a bit.
It reminded me of the Archer-class scout ship from the TOS novels, although SNW has their own version of the Archer-class based on the old Star Fleet Technical Manual destroyer/scout.
Archer class
For other uses, see Archer. The Archer-class was a type of Federation Starfleet scout vessel in service at least in the 2260s. Archer-class ships were designed to go "very far, very fast, and not be noticed." They go "to the edge of nowhere and peek behind the curtains." The ships are small and...
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None of this new Farragut material contradicts TOS "Obsession", I think . Poor gal's been through a lot, losing half the crew to an angry vape cloud, and then both nacelles jettisoned in a strange presaging of Kirk's orders to Scotty in TOS "The Apple", but the Farragut is a tough little ship.
- I found it interesting that Kirk somehow ends up with only his future Enterprise crew to count on when it really should've been Una or Pike leading the away team. Why Spock?
- Re-using existing sets is nothing new, and we've technically already seen the Farragut's bridge, but here we also get the conference room off to the side with the table turned sideways and pictures of a DSC Starbase on the screen.
- Last week there were no scenes set on the bridge, probably so they can have time to convert the sets to Farragut-spec and back again.
- Technically the Farragut's nacelles didn't explode, just just sorta bounced off of the Scavenger ship. Irrecoverable?
Mark
- I found it interesting that Kirk somehow ends up with only his future Enterprise crew to count on when it really should've been Una or Pike leading the away team. Why Spock?
- Re-using existing sets is nothing new, and we've technically already seen the Farragut's bridge, but here we also get the conference room off to the side with the table turned sideways and pictures of a DSC Starbase on the screen.
- Last week there were no scenes set on the bridge, probably so they can have time to convert the sets to Farragut-spec and back again.
- Technically the Farragut's nacelles didn't explode, just just sorta bounced off of the Scavenger ship. Irrecoverable?
Mark
Didn't the Scavenger Ship get exploded by 3x Photon Torpedoes by the USS Farragut immediately afterwards?
If they weren't damaged, by the explosion, they might've been flung far away due to explosion?
Indeed
Seeing that the XCV-100 appears to be largely intact, albeit unpowered, could Starfleet conduct a survey of this ship and recover data from the ship's computers? Or, would they be averse to doing this as essentially this is a grave site and there are moral and ethical issues with any mission to the wreckage site?
Based on the trailers, no
It’s not the same ship though, so they didn’t massacre anything? This is the XCV-100 not 330
It’s Starbase one without the pods. The label is legible in one shot.
Well no, it was exploded by the D7 the torpedoes blew up
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And you have on a report that "captain" Kirk saved the day. Sort of. Or at least ended a threat.
But that also places the XCV type ships as starships from the 2050s or so. Pre-First Contact. So was the XCV-330 Enterprise also from that era, or was it a post-First Contact refit of the design with a Vulcan style warp ring?
But that also places the XCV type ships as starships from the 2050s or so. Pre-First Contact. So was the XCV-330 Enterprise also from that era, or was it a post-First Contact refit of the design with a Vulcan style warp ring?
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Wasn't the Farrgut just blue graphics but otherwise identical to Enterprise?
EDIT: Oh wait, nevermind it got trashed.
Unknown. But I will point out that there’s no canonical proof that the XCV-330’s ring was reverse engineered from Vulcan ships, or that the ring is even a warp drive at all.
Also, I’m glad that the ship was XCV-100 and not the 330. Having the scavenger ship be another Enterprise would have been far too much small-universe syndrome.
All the red parts of the bridge were replaced with brown ones, and there's Cage style Goose neck screens on some of the outer consoles.
There's more standard looking BoP in the scavenger's belly. I don't think it's a 1:1 copy of the B'Rel, I don't see the black parts thar are usually on the engines. could be a slight redesign like the Enterprise and Romulan BoP
Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
Also seen inside the Scavenger ship in #StarTrekSNW's "The Sehlat Who Ate Its Tail" are various bits and pieces of a very familiar starship: A Klingon Bird-of-Prey! Not the one introduced in season 1 of #StarTrekDiscovery but the one (with slight alterations) from "Star Trek III" and onwards! 😁
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Edit: It was meant to be a 22nd century BoP
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Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
Here's a comparison of the Bird-of-Prey wing seen inside the Scavenger ship in #StarTrekSNW's "The Sehlat Who Ate Its Tail"↖️, the 23rd/24th century Bird-of-Prey ↗️ and the 22nd century version of the ship from #StarTrekENT ↙️. The SNW ship definitely looks more like ↗️.
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There's a nice closeup of a cutaway of the Enterprise's secondary hull in Episode 6
Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
#StarTrekSNW's "The Sehlat Who Ate Its Tail" gives us a nice cross-section of the forward engineer hull of the USS Enterprise.Both multi-deck Engineering ⬇️ (behind the deflector) and the large cargo bay ⬆️ (with visible cargo containers) can be made out. 🧵 1/2
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Here's a comparison with the Franz Joseph blueprints for the TOS version. the turbolift layout is similar, so they may have used it as a basis.
Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
I've also made a comparison of the cross section seen in #StarTrekSNW's "The Sehlat Who Ate Its Tail" and the same section of the #StarTrekTOS USS Enterprise cross section from the Franz Joseph 1973 Star Trek blueprints ⬇️. 2/2
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From 2x07: "What is Starfleet?"
- How often do we get an actual length of any ship, on screen, in meters, in canon?!
- And similarly, I think the only other real mass of any ship we know is Voyager, at 700,000mt - and while a good deal shorter than the SNW Enterprise, she probably still has as much or more volume.
- Firing torpedoes is a literal big red button.
- The SNW Enterprise has two torpedo tubes. Nevermind schematics, but the TOS Enteprise had more than that per background comms chatter.
- Likewise, six phaser banks. I know the weapons and mass are pretty much lifted from the Franz Joseph tech manual, but again the TOS Defiant did add some aft phaser and torpedo banks and I'm pretty sure we've seen the SNW Enterprise fire at stuff behind them.
- Una's station is literally the "First Officer" station per the cameras. La'an's is Tactical.
- Using bridge cameras comes up again in TOS. Here EVERYONE has one pointed at their faces by default.
- Have we seen the armory before? It's a redress of their usual flex set, but here we see all their hand weapons lined up AND a shooting range of sorts.
- La'an is practicing in the range PROBABLY out of uniform. I'm not sure ANY Starfleet uniform would see the utility of platform boots like those.
Mark
- How often do we get an actual length of any ship, on screen, in meters, in canon?!
- And similarly, I think the only other real mass of any ship we know is Voyager, at 700,000mt - and while a good deal shorter than the SNW Enterprise, she probably still has as much or more volume.
- Firing torpedoes is a literal big red button.
- The SNW Enterprise has two torpedo tubes. Nevermind schematics, but the TOS Enteprise had more than that per background comms chatter.
- Likewise, six phaser banks. I know the weapons and mass are pretty much lifted from the Franz Joseph tech manual, but again the TOS Defiant did add some aft phaser and torpedo banks and I'm pretty sure we've seen the SNW Enterprise fire at stuff behind them.
- Una's station is literally the "First Officer" station per the cameras. La'an's is Tactical.
- Using bridge cameras comes up again in TOS. Here EVERYONE has one pointed at their faces by default.
- Have we seen the armory before? It's a redress of their usual flex set, but here we see all their hand weapons lined up AND a shooting range of sorts.
- La'an is practicing in the range PROBABLY out of uniform. I'm not sure ANY Starfleet uniform would see the utility of platform boots like those.
Mark