Spoilers ST Strange New Worlds - Starships and Technology Season Four Discussion

[Tuskin38]

The Engineering set finally returns as the engine room of the USS Griffin. The shuttlebay (also a virtual set) may be new though, I don't think we've seen the clamshell doors from the inside before on this show.

We saw some of the shuttle bay in Season 2's 'Those Old Scientists', but the doors were open.

 

[David cgc]

- I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that all the "Discovery" props and such have been sold off, but this would've been a great time to see the older uniforms in use again. I'd suggest that they were in the current uniforms as a hallucination, but La'an does see her Griffin counterpart in the current uniform in the logs.

SNW has never used DSC uniforms or props when it would be appropriate for a flashback, old video, or other situations. It’s kind of annoying.

- They even make sound effects like the transporters from "The Cage". I know this shimmering SFX is heard elsewhere in this show, but they really crank it up for its use here.

I caught it last week, as well. I just pulled up a couple old episodes, and it looks like the “Cage” transporter sound is something new they’re doing for this season.

- The USS Griffin's class is not firmly established. There is a fuzzy graphic at the top of the episode that lists assorted specs and her last mission, but it's too blurred to make out. Crew of ~300, we don't really know what the Enterprise's crew count is following her most recent refit at the beginning of the show but in DSC it was firmly established as its "Cage" level in 2259. That doesn't MEAN the Griffin isn't a Connie, as the Enterprise bounced to 430 in TOS possibly 500 in TMP, and back to 300 by TUC. There's ample space for all these people regardless.

I think I made out the word “Constitution” on the dedication plaque in one of the last scenes on the bridge.

 

[Henoch]

As an aside, I'm not pleased that there wasn't a sci-fi explanation for the Griffin being all "Event Horizon" (they even played into the "you belong to the ship" theme from that movie). I understand that not everything HAS to be explained by subspace fissures or time travelling aliens or whatever, but here the only conclusion for this situation is "oh, the ship's haunted", followed by a shrugging of shoulders and moving on. At least the Event Horizon was all because she attempted wormhole-based FTL travel and ended up transiting into a dimension of evil.

During TOS, I remember four cases where the dead "live on" in some form or diabolical entities with mind control. Firstly, the Jack the Ripper entity from Wolf In The Fold; secondly, the Gorgan from And The Children Shall Lead; thirdly, the pinwheel entity from The Day Of The Dove; and lastly, the Zetars from The Lights Of Zetar. Of course, you could just drift into unstable space and go homicidal crazy as the USS Defiant did in The Tholian Web. YMMV .

 

[Dukhat]

SNW has never used DSC uniforms or props when it would be appropriate for a flashback, old video, or other situations. It’s kind of annoying.

Nor have they used the S1 orc Klingons in flashbacks when it would have been appropriate to do so.

 

[Enterprise1701]

Daniel J Burns has posted a concept render of the cargo tug U.S.S. Thorn on Twitter:

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[Airmandan]

Connie

 

[Tuskin38]

Nor have they used the S1 orc Klingons in flashbacks when it would have been appropriate to do so.

They did use footage of them in at least one flashback (or was it previously on) as it was footage from Discovery.

They used the bug looking raider/shuttle in Season 3, and I believe they reused one of the disruptor pistols.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Connie

Sure enough!

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

That's cool - and possibly the biggest change in the SNW sets done to make it into the Griffin, aside from turning the dial on the lighting board from "Enterprise" down to "Emerald City After Dark".

Also, character note: "Admiral Smillie" is mentioned. This may be the same Bill Smillie, who's the Starfleet C-in-C some thirty years hence in "The Undiscovered Country", albeit only in the novelization. Or a family relation, as that would make Bill a rather young admiral in this era.

Mark

 

[Tuskin38]

This may be the same Bill Smillie, who's the Starfleet C-in-C some thirty years hence in "The Undiscovered Country"

idk, he doesn't seem old enough in ST6.

Edit: Well, not to have been an admiral that long.

 

[Ronald Held]

More likely family relation, father?

 

[DEWLine]

Probably a relative.

 

[Enterprise1701]

Another angle of the U.S.S. Thorn from Daniel J Burns:

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[137th Gebirg]

That is a really cool looking ship. Love the older NX-style engines.

 

[Enterprise1701]

And one more angle!

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[Lakenheath 72]

We have three new ships this week, I believe. There is not a good enough look at the Stamets type shuttlecraft to get her registry or name.

 

[fireproof78]

- See? Shuttle transporters! Why no one thinks of using them whenever "transporters are down"?!

Because the characters are so stupid.

 

[137th Gebirg]

So I guess we still don’t have a registry number for the Thorn? How unusual…

 

[Tuskin38]

Tellarite shuttle

 

[Lakenheath 72]

We see more of the shuttlebay in the latest episode. The Enterprise has at least five shuttlecraft, all of the Stamets-type, and at least two workbees.