SPOILER "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

[gastrof]

I don't think that's much of a spoiler, since I'm not saying where it came from and it was posted publicly.


For those that don't know, it's from our new Chekov, in reference to the tail end of the film. (I wanted to post this a few days ago, but couldn't.)

Now, how do we all feel that it seems the movie ends with the crew in the TOS uniforms? I kinda like it. Even if the bridge doesn't look exactly the same, at least this is something.

What do you think?

 

[Kegek]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

I think you could call the ENT uniforms by the same qualifiers, as the same colours distinguished the branches... they were just less prominent. While the colours may be more prominent here, I doubt by very much.

 

[gastrof]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

I think you could call the ENT uniforms by the same qualifiers, as the same colours distinguished the branches... they were just less prominent. While the colours may be more prominent here, I doubt by very much.

I dunno.

Saying 'you see them in the gold blue and red' doesn't make it sound like there's another prominant color.

Besides, the action figures have already been seen, and they're in the TOS uniforms.

I believe James Cawley of NEW VOYAGES said he'd seen the uniforms and they were spot on.

 

[Basil]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

Will the film assume the uniforms of "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before" never existed?

 

[gastrof]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

Will the film assume the uniforms of "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before" never existed?

If I understand right, the movie visits more than one time period (for example, we've seen Kirk's academy uniform).

What's shown at the end apparently jumps ahead to the five year mission, and we see the crew together as we last saw them on network television.

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

This is pretty much what I expected (and wanted) all along.

I'm guessing that the crew will be spread all over the place in the beginning (on other ships, etc.) and then will all come together on the Enterprise at the end, ready for their "first" mission together (AKA Star Trek XII).

 

[StarTrek1701]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

This is pretty much what I expected (and wanted) all along.

I'm guessing that the crew will be spread all over the place in the beginning (on other ships, etc.) and then will all come together on the Enterprise at the end, ready for their "first" mission together (AKA Star Trek XII).

We can only hope!

 

[gastrof]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

This is pretty much what I expected (and wanted) all along.

I'm guessing that the crew will be spread all over the place in the beginning (on other ships, etc.) and then will all come together on the Enterprise at the end, ready for their "first" mission together (AKA Star Trek XII).

Yeah, but I'm not so sure the scene Yelchin's talking about is them "just coming together".

For example, we don't hear anything about Gary Mitchell, we don't hear any talk of the WNMHGB uniforms, and so on. Exactly when, for example, did McCoy replace Boyce?

As said above, I suspect that scene Yelchin mentions is a simple glimpse of them "essentially as we knew them", possibly totally out of context, at some unknown point in time.

The movie probably ends with the feel (especially if the Enterprise, including the bridge, is a little different) that Spock "for the most part" saved the timeline, even if "a few" things are now different. (Same uniforms, different look to the ship?) At this point we can now move on for whatever comes in XII.

I suspect XII may not be the first mission of the crew we know (corbomite, anyone?) but something either from the middle of the five year mission, or even something following Kirk's saying "thataway" at the end of TMP.

Let's face it...

I can far more easilly see a TMP era film as XII, than something that holds so closely to TOS. Sure, we're apparently going to see them BRIEFLY in the TOS uniforms, but for another movie, a movie-era setting's far more likely.

Hey, if they've pulled off playing Kirk and company since Kirk's academy days, I'm sure the actors can play them 2 1/2 years + after the five year mission.

 

[scotthm]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

Let's face it...

I can far more easilly see a TMP era film as XII, than something that holds so closely to TOS.

Since the TOS TV Series was much better than the TOS Movie Series, I can only hope you're way off base.

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[gastrof]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

Let's face it...

I can far more easilly see a TMP era film as XII, than something that holds so closely to TOS.

Since the TOS TV Series was much better than the TOS Movie Series, I can only hope you're way off base.

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But wouldn't this depend on how well a movie-era TOS film (as Trek XII) is done? It could take place in either time period, movie or series. It's how well it'd done that will affect what XII is. Not how previous TOS series or TOS movie productions were done

I'm just figuring the uniforms alone would make any XII film-maker run SCREAMING for the movie era.

 

[FordSVT]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

The movie probably ends with the feel (especially if the Enterprise, including the bridge, is a little different) that Spock "for the most part" saved the timeline, even if "a few" things are now different. (Same uniforms, different look to the ship?) At this point we can now move on for whatever comes in XII.

I don't even feel the need to rationalize a slightly different look to everything as an "alteration" of the time line or some such thing. The very fact that it's not the same actors pretty much makes every other visual change small by comparison. It's the same universe, we're just seeing a different interpretation of it.

That's how I view all Trek, as a "future fable". We can pretend it's all real, but we never see how it truly is, only interpretations of it. Like having different story tellers recall the same myth.

 

[Devon]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

Besides, the action figures have already been seen, and they're in the TOS uniforms.

Actually the playmates uniforms were described as "Very similar" to the TOS uniforms.

 

[USS Mariner]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

We honestly don't have one fucking clue as to the uniforms, outside of those jumpsuits we've seen from JFX. Cawley phrased his statements in such a way that deriving an answer is impossible (either deliberately or by request of JJ.)

 

[Mike Farley]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

That's how I view all Trek, as a "future fable". We can pretend it's all real, but we never see how it truly is, only interpretations of it. Like having different story tellers recall the same myth.

But...but...but...then how do you complain about minutia?

What kind of fan are you!?

 

[FordSVT]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

That's how I view all Trek, as a "future fable". We can pretend it's all real, but we never see how it truly is, only interpretations of it. Like having different story tellers recall the same myth.

But...but...but...then how do you complain about minutia?

What kind of fan are you!?

The show has enough verbal and plot nibbles to keep one occupied for many lifetimes, I don't get too freaked out about where the phaser beam comes from on the saucer or what colour carpet is in Kirk's quarters.

Glaring omission or error is one thing, but when you're trying to make a movie in 2008 that's based on a TV show from the 1960s there is no possible way to make it 100% visually accurate. Making the assumption that purely because things look somewhat different there must therefore be some kind of alternate time line, or it's a reboot, etc., I believe, is in error. It only matters if that's the writer's intention.

There are people who don't consider anything past ST:TMP canon and think it's all shit and in another reality because of this kind of thinking. Good for them, but it's not how I choose to enjoy the franchise.

 

[TheCanon72]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

Why do the TOS uniforms have to be The Corbomite Manauver uniforms?

Why do the all red, blue, white, or olive uniforms have to be the cadet uniforms?



The Corbomite Manauver is not the only episode of TOS.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

Indeed. He could also mean that EVERYONE'S uniforms are gold, blue, AND red. You know, like a Doug Henning outfit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuXdfuSkJus

Mark

 

[N-121973]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

Ah but are we talking season 1 & 2 uniforms or the uniforms from season 3?

 

[Classic Fan]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

This is pretty much what I expected (and wanted) all along.

I'm guessing that the crew will be spread all over the place in the beginning (on other ships, etc.) and then will all come together on the Enterprise at the end, ready for their "first" mission together (AKA Star Trek XII).

We can only hope!

Exactly....

I was always hoping this movie was going to end like this, still am as we dont really know whats going on anyway.

Besides, it could be the start of the Kirk missions which would give us dusty blue, gold (or for us TOS'ers) Green, and olive kinda colour. Red didnt come in until later, nor did the vibrant blue. Hell, were not trek fans if we dont nit-pick.

Or, it could pick up anywhere, even after the TOS we know today and take place pre-TMP, where Archer and his Enterprise (The temporary replacement Enterprise) would be hopping the universe.


but anyway, we dont know the details yet, so...



Heres to hoping...


Hope.

 

[nostradamus]

Re: SPOILER- "You see everyone in the gold, and the blue, and the red"

There is nothing to see here. What picture are we talking about?