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Spock: First Vulcan in the Fleet?

jimcat

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Hello everyone,
Another thread (Andymator's about his Star Trek animated project over in “Fan Productions”) recently raised that old chestnut about Spock being the first Vulcan in Starfleet. I thought I'd have a poke around and see if I could come up with some clues as to how this particular "fact" got started. Considering the number of people who've been over this ground before, to my considerable surprise, I think I might have managed to.

Many sources, like www.startrek.com and The Star Trek Encyclopedia are quite clear that Spock was the first Vulcan in the Fleet. But where does that come from? A close inspection of the Star Trek Chronology and the 1995 edition of the Star Trek Concordance reveals that the culprit is the episode of the original series “Whom Gods Destroy”. Specifically, I now think this exchange of dialogue was the original inspiration:
KIRK: I agree there was a time when war was necessary, and you were our greatest warrior. I studied your victory at Axanar when I was a cadet. In fact it's still required reading at the Academy.
GARTH: As well it should be.
KIRK: Very well. But my first visit to Axanar was as a new fledged cadet on a peace mission.
GARTH: Peace mission! Politicians and weaklings!
KIRK: They were humanitarians and statesmen, and they had a dream. A dream that became a reality and spread throughout the stars, a dream that made Mister Spock and me brothers.
GARTH: Mister Spock, do you consider Captain Kirk and yourself brothers?
SPOCK: Captain Kirk speaks somewhat figuratively and with undue emotion. However, what he says is logical and I do, in fact, agree with it.
(Thanks as always for stuff like this to the Star Trek Transcripts.)

The Star Trek Chronology is very clear that Mike and Denise Okuda interpret the above to mean that the Battle of Axanar immediately preceded the peace mission Cadet Kirk went on, and it was the specific “politicians and weaklings” on that mission which allowed Kirk and Spock to become “brothers”.

I have to say, I'm not at all convinced. It's an interpretation that never made it into the first (and in my opinion, superior) 1976 edition of the Star Trek Concordance. It doesn't fit with other established dates: if Spock is not allowed into the Academy until after the Axanar peace mission, then he cannot enter the Academy for at least a year after Kirk, which just isn't reflected in the various number of years both men have served in Starfleet.

It seems equally likely that the conversation is on a more general level, about the superiority of peace and diplomacy over war. To be precise, Kirk is emphasising that the ways of peace ultimately create a stronger society than the most ruthless, efficient and successful warrior society, using the friendship and mutual respect between himself and Spock as a concrete example.

The precise interpretation of this exchange isn't for me to try and dictate, but I'm very, very dubious that it can be taken as an indication that Spock was the first Vulcan in the fleet.

People are welcome to disagree, even that this is the root of the statement, although I'm hard-pressed to think of anything else in Star Trek that could be considered as an indication of Starfleet's recruitment policy around 2250. I'd always thought that it was something that had been established in a draft script, background information or just so early on in fandom that everyone accepts it. I've not been able to find any indication that this particular interpretation of the conversation was around at all before the mid-90s, although I admit my Star Trek reference collection isn't terribly big. The 1980 USS Enterprise Officer's Manual biography of Spock has nothing to say about it, nor does the biography of Spock in the DC Comics Who's Who in Star Trek from 1987. Maybe one of you out there knows different?

Timon
 
Some here at TrekBBs (not me) think that when the Federation was first formed, that all the various original member's fleets were consolidated into the new Starfleet. Vulcan seemed to possess a fair sized fleet during Enterprise. That would have meant thousands, if not tens of thousands of Vulcans were in Starfleet prior to Spock's admission.
 
Since the USS Intrepid from "The Immunity Syndrome" was crewed entirely by Vulcans, I can't imagine Spock being the first in Starfleet. Unless he was followed immediately by 400 others. I imagine it's a legend that started in an old press release or something.

Of course, far more recently, T'Pol became a commander in Starfleet in the fourth season of Enterprise, a century prior to classic Trek. Although she never put on the uniform she wore the pips and the mission patch.
 
I think the idea of Spock being the first Vulcan in Starfleet came from outside the series, but its origins may have come from the original concept of the Enterprise as an Earth starship and Spock as her only alien crewmember, IMO.
 
I've run across "Spock, the first Vulcan in Starfleet" concept in a lot of the old 1970's fanzines, so the idea is at least that old.
 
I do not think it a reasonable idea the Spock is the "first Vulcan in Starfleet". As has been pointed out up-thread, the presence of USS Intrepid (crewed entirely by Vulcans) seems to inalidate the idea. And, besides, it is never stated anywhere on-screen to be the case, so it is guesswork on our part at best at most. IMO, it's just another piece on fan-lore that has mutated itself into being a "fact" in the minds of some folks, and nothing more.
 
To be fair, Kirk and the others certainly act like Spock is an exotic novelty. His curious Vulcan ways appear to be an endless source of fascination and amusement, and McCoy, in particular, can't stop commenting on how inhuman Spock is, emotionally and physically.

While it was never established officially, I can certainly see how someone watching TOS the first time around could get the impression that Spock was the first Vulcan most Starfleet types had ever met.
 
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As as far as the Federation-era is concerned, I see nothing wrong with this assumption.

My guess is nobody followed T'Pol for close to a century. Everyone looked down their noses at humans. As upstarts throwing weight around they didn't have. Her rank was because Archer pulled some strings. She didn't go the Starfleet Academy route. Most of the mission, she was a Vulcan advisor in authority.

By Season 1 of The Original Series, Spock had been in Starfleet for more than 11 years judging by "The Menagerie". That's long enough to have opened the door for others, if indeed they did actually follow him. Sarek frowned on his son joining that organisation. Out of disappointment not entering into the Vulcan Science Academy. Although it could easily have been due to some residual reputation surrounding humans, left over from the 22nd Century... like our meddling in galactic affairs and not deferring to Vulcan seniority. ;)

Stuck in their ways, they took a long time to see Starfleet as a multi-species organisation. Even surrounded differing cultures in uniform, Sarek only finally reveals to his son, that he thinks his friends (human?) are of good character by The Voyage Home. Suggesting that's not what he had expected and maybe a little prejudice in there somewhere perhaps?

As for the U.S.S. Intrepid, maybe the Vulcan Science Council put some small print in their Federation membership contract, stating they're intitled to the use of one starship for research from time to time. Having largely disbanded their own fleet and having provided a lot of technology (along with Andorians & Tellarites) to Starfleet in the development of faster warp vessels. I mean as well as exploration, those are supposed to defend all the various unified worlds and Vulcan is not the big threatening superpower it once was and not all that far from Earth.
 
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Spock could not have been the first Vulcan in Starfleet because his dad was an ambassador for it. And we know his dad must've joined before Spock was old enough to join himself.

But I think the idea of Spock being the first Vulcan in Starfleet was perpetuated early on in TOS. Remember, the character of Spock had to maintain that sense of aloneness or alieness to explore Roddenberry's question of "What does it mean to be human?" And what better way than to make him the first or only of his kind in Starfleet???
 
Spock could not have been the first Vulcan in Starfleet because his dad was an ambassador for it. And we know his dad must've joined before Spock was old enough to join himself.

Sarek was never in Starfleet. He was an ambassador for the Federation, true, but as a civilian.
 
Spock could not have been the first Vulcan in Starfleet because his dad was an ambassador for it.
Wait a minute, I missed something.

When was Sarek an ambassador for Starfleet? Or are you confusing The Federation and Starfleet. they're not the same thing. The Federation is a assemblage of multiple interstellar species, which includes Earth and Vulcan. Starfleet is a organization that operates the ships and bases that we see in the various series.

The Starfleet we see in Enterprise (the series) and the one in the rest of the series's might (or might not) be separate.

Sarek ... was an ambassador for the Federation
I thought Sarek was the Vulcan ambassador to the Federation.

:)
 
The Starfleet we see in Enterprise (the series) and the one in the rest of the series's might (or might not) be separate.

They are separate organizations. ENT's is the Earth Starfleet. The rest of the series and films, has the Federation Starfleet. They are not the same.

Sarek ... was an ambassador for the Federation
I thought Sarek was the Vulcan ambassador to the Federation.

:)

Why would Vulcan need an ambassador to a government of which it is already a member? :confused:

In ENT, it makes sense, since United Earth and Vulcan are separate governments and so each would have a diplomatic mission to the other. But once the Federation is formed, there should be no need for such a thing.
 
I thought Sarek was the Vulcan ambassador to the Federation.
Why would Vulcan need an ambassador to a government of which it is already a member?
In Journey to Babel, Sarek was the Vulcan Ambassador. In The Undiscovered Country, Sarek was the Vulcan Ambassador according to Spock. In the same movie, Spock (who is a Vulcan) was referred to as the Federation Envoy.

:)
 
I don't think that Spock was the first Vulcan in Starfleet. The U.S.S. Intrepid, manned by an entire Vulcan crew, clearly shows otherwise, IMO.

I'd say it comes from something outside the show, since Spock was the only alien on the Enterprise. That, and the fact that the Intrepid was manned only by Vulcans, shows to me that Starfleet in the 23rd century had a habit of not having very diverse crews. For all we know, there could be ships out there manned entirely by Andorians or entirely by Tellarites.

As for what Sarak was an ambassador to - I've always assumed he was the Vulcan ambassador to the Federation government, meaning that member worlds both elect Federation Council Members and have appointed representatives at that level of government.
 
i tihnk someone got confused as to whether Sarek was an ambassador FOR the Federation or TO the Federation. not helped by the fact in TOS a lot of the background was being made up on the fly.
 
As for what Sarak was an ambassador to - I've always assumed he was the Vulcan ambassador to the Federation government, meaning that member worlds both elect Federation Council Members and have appointed representatives at that level of government.

Maybe "Ambassador" is the title given to a member of the Federation Council? Given the little we know about the development of the Federation - the unfication at some level of nation states that already had formalised diplomatic relations - it would be fairly logical for the first wave of "Federation council members" to be in-place representatives of those states: their ambassadors.

dJE
 
Well, Fed member world don't give up their sovereignty when they join the Federation. It's not unbelievable they'd have their own independent ambassadors to represent them on matters to the Federation Council or other Fed worlds if need be. And if the Feds ask for them, they can act as Ambassadors FOR the Federation to other polities.

As for Spock, he may have been one of the more prominent human/Vulcan hybrids in Starfleet at the time of TOS, not the only Vulcan.
 
Well, Fed member world don't give up their sovereignty when they join the Federation. It's not unbelievable they'd have their own independent ambassadors to represent them on matters to the Federation Council

That's what Federation Councillors are for.
 
Well, Fed member world don't give up their sovereignty when they join the Federation.
According to the animated series (canon?) federation planets exchange ambassadors directly with each other, by-passing the federation council apparently. And according the Deep Space Nine, Vulcan and the Klingon Empire also directly exchange ambassadors.

Vulcan had direct diplomatic contact with Bajor prior to Starfleet's management of the station, a embassy was on DS9. (there was a directory mounted on one wall in the promenade)

After the explosion on Praxis, Vulcan contacted the Klingon government first, and then asked (or told) the federation council to become involved.

Now if the Vulcans, federation members of course, can do all these thing, we might be able to infer that all the membership of the federation can do the same, if they wish.

Personally, I want the federation to be a complex place (better for story-telling), and I want it's "government" to very different than anything we have now on Earth.

:)
 
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