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Spike Lee slams Clint Eastwood for being racist

While I admire Spike Lee as a director, I think Spike can be an ass with his opinions. Has Spike not noticed that Clint Eastwood & Morgan Freeman are best friends & the Eastwood has put Freeman in most of his fims? What about the fact that Eastwood acknowledged the other side of the "Flags of Our Fathers" story by making "Letters From Iwo Jima" which told the tale from the Japanese point of view.

Where are the Asian actors in your films, Mr Lee?
 
Spike is wrong. That being said...



This is irrelevant to the extent that I'm not sure you understood the post:
Didn't Spike direct Jungle fever, where all the white guys are racist twats, and the only good people are black?

And this is the most illogical thing I've seen in quite some time:
so according to "Spike" Lee anybody who doesn't go out of their way to include blacks in their films is a racist.


Once again, Spike = wrong.
Doesn't mean that bizarre made-up facts should be used to support that view. In fact, I get a bit more annoyed when wrong arguments are used to support my views than if they were arguing against me. I'd much rather have my opinions stand on logic and reasoning. This doesn't help anyone.
 
There was this urban legend that Liz had made racist remarks against black people and that she didn't want them buying her clothes. It was totally fake, of course, but Spike and his ilk apparently thought it was real.
Linky

"It definitely happened.Get the tape" :rolleyes:
what a complete jack-ass.
 
Well, another unacknowledged thing was that there were Japanese-American/Canadian soldiers at the various landings on D-Day, but no one really bitches about that too much.

I dunno, I don't really know about the Pacific Campaign, but if there were black soldiers at Iwo, I don't see why they couldn't have appeared as extras in Flags of our Fathers.
 
Apologies if this has been posted already:

Spike Lee has slammed legendary actor/director Clint Eastwood for failing to include black soldiers in his films Letters from Iwo Jima (2007) and Flags of Our Fathers (2006). The Inside Man director claims Eastwood should have included African-American soldiers in the films about the Battle of Iwo Jima—considering hundreds took part in the 1945 battle. Lee launched his attack on Tuesday at the Cannes Film Festival, saying, “There were many African-Americans who survived that war and who were upset at Clint of not having one (in the films). That was his version: the negro soldier did not exist. I have a different version. But I know it was pointed out to him and that he could have changed it. It’s not like he didn’t know.”
Spike Lee slams Clint Eastwood for being racist

So, I've read through that link. And I see no part of that link wherein Mister Lee refers to Mister Eastwood as being racist or accuses Mister Eastwood of racism. He criticizes Mister Eastwood for not in his view being sufficiently inclusive of the different American ethnicities that took part in the Battle of Iowa Jima, but that is not the same thing as accusing him of being racist.

Tell me, is there any interview wherein Mister Lee actually accuses Mister Eastwood of being racist, or are you just putting words into his mouth?
 
He said that he wanted black characters (soldiers) in the movies, and for them to be recognized, not for the actors you mentioned to play the Japanese characters. And he's got a point-it's not as if he was filming the Battle Of Britain, which mostly was all-white.
They weren't soldiers (army) in those movies, they were marines. At that time, the Marine Corps did not use black marines in front line infantry units, which are the focus of the movies. There definitely were black marines and sailors on Iwo Jima, but they were in supporting echelons in rear areas. Those kinds of units were not shown in the movies (except at very long distance in aerial shots &c.). Spike needs to do his homework: Eastwood is not racist, but the times he was depicting were.
Bingo.

I do wonder about this, though -- from the article:
Lee launched his attack... saying, “...I know it was pointed out to him and that he could have changed it. It’s not like he didn’t know.”
What, precisely, was pointed out to Eastwood, and what is he supposed to have known, according to Lee? Surely, Lee isn't suggesting that historical accuracy be sacrificed to fit a latter-day sense of inclusion which did not exist in that time and place?

The "article" gives no indication.

A professor / author wrote to Eastwood during production asking him to include black soldiers, 900 of which landed as Marine ammunition handlers (and many Navy personnel landed as well) but were almost immediately serving as frontline riflemen on top of those duties. I believe they showed a couple of ammunition carriers taking hits during the initial assault during the film, so that could have been an opportunity to show black soldiers then.

Likewise, a black soldier handed one of the guys who raised the flag the pipe they used for the flagpole, so that was another opportunity.

This article goes into detail about the role of black soldiers at Iwo Jima and the film.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/oct/21/usa.filmnews

I don't think Eastwood did it out of any racist (not that Lee directly accuses him of it anyway) or malicious reasons, but he was asked and missed an opportunity to cover a frequently overlooked aspect of Pacific War history, and he could have done it easily and accurately without it coming off as tokenism or pandering.
 
Well, another unacknowledged thing was that there were Japanese-American/Canadian soldiers at the various landings on D-Day, but no one really bitches about that too much.

The Canadians landed on Juno Beach. That comes up whenever Juno Beach is covered in a film - The Longest Day, for example. It is true that this film, which has a large number of American, British, German and French characters, has no Canadian speaking parts, but they're said to be there.

Good point about the Japanese, though.
 
I don't think Eastwood did it out of any racist (not that Lee directly accuses him of it anyway) or malicious reasons

So basically the title of this thread is completely wrong?

Well, to be fair, the OP is simply repeating the title used by the article, and while Lee doesn't say so explicitly, it's certainly possible to interpret his comments as implying racism on Eastwood's part.
 
Spike Lee's a racist. he's always dissing white folks for the way they depict black folks, whether or not it's historically accurate.

i bet he was one of those mofos whining about there not being any black people in Star Wars in '77...

apart from Darth Vader, of course, the blackest brutha in the galaxy (copyright Kevin Smith 1994)
 
I'm waiting for Spike to direct his version of Apollo 13 so we can get the black experience of that historic event.
 
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