Spoilers Spider-man 3(take 2) Anticipation thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Samurai8472, Jan 17, 2021.

  1. theenglish

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    My family feels the same way about Star Trek II. "What are they doing? Posing for a photo?" was the question that I got in one of the character reaction scenes. Movies never remain contemporary, and need to be enjoyed with an understanding of when they were produced.

    In the context of Raimi's films, at the time (organic web shooters aside) he was trying to produce a movie that was close to the comics. CGI effects had just come into their own, but still couldn't effectively render humans and animals. There was no weight to the images. Also, Raimi tried hard to have scenes that, when paused, looked liked comic book panels--which is why you have scenes of characters like you showed in the clips you posted.

    As for Tobey, he is a good actor and I like him in a lot of stuff, but he was never really Peter Parker for me. (Or maybe he was at one point, but all those posts from 2002 are gone now, aren't they?)
     
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  2. Samurai8472

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    Raimi- The classic era. Peter Parker still wears bottle cap sized glasses and is dorky

    Webb- The modern era.

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    Holland- I think he's more the Ultimate era
     
  3. FreezeC77

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    The biggest mistake with those movies was doing a reboot of the Raimi movies and starting off with the origin story people already knew and having Andrew Garfield be a 'high schooler'. Dude was the least convincing looking high school student since Luke Perry on 90210. I think he was like 30 or almost 30 in the first one. Tobey wasn't a perfect case age wise either, but at least his smaller size and features helped him a wee bit more than how Garfield looked.

    Wasn't until Tom Holland we got a close to proper aged Peter Parker debut on screen. I think he was like 19/20 when first filming the character.
     
  4. Mage

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    I loved the Raimi movies back in the day, but they haven't aged well.

    The only reason people keep saying they are the best is because they grew up with them and don't want people saying harsh things about their childhood.

    Sorry. As entertaining as popcorn flicks as they are, the Raimi Spidey movies really are bad. BAD. Bee Aaa Dee.
     
  5. Allyn Gibson

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    Garfield was 29 when Amazing Spider-Man came out, which was only a year older than Maguire was when his first film came out. I thought then, and still think, that Garfield should have just been a recast Maguire. I can accept that Sean Connery and Roger Moore played the exact same character. I would have accepted Garfield as Maguire's Peter Parker.

    I'll never forget leaving the theater after seeing Amazing Spider-Man on its opening weekend and overhearing a passionate conversation from a guy trying to explain to his girllfriend how this fit with the previous Spider-Man movies. It didn't and doesn't, but damn, the guy was really trying to make it fit. I wish I had recorded the conversation, because I do not remember any of his explanation.
     
  6. The Knappos

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    I rewatched Spider-Man 2 this afternoon in my probably-won’t-get-through-all-of-them-cos-I-started-too-late watch through and it’s still one of the best superhero movies full stop.

    It’s just perfectly paced, with a zippy first act, an in-depth second act and a standout, exemplary third act. Each scene ups the stakes for every thread in the film. And every thread compliments the others. Well, except maybe the violin theme tune singing lady.

    It’s superb.
     
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  7. The Nth Doctor

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    Yup, pretty much. And I didn't like them the first time around when I was the target audience at the right age.

    That was one of the few things I actually enjoyed, something I had no memory of the first time around.
     
  8. Samurai8472

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    I've brought it up in the past but I noticed with Maguire and Garfield that they quickly abandoned the highschool aspect and hurried Peter off to college

    Not even halfway into the movie and Maguires Peter's already graduated highschool
     
  9. The Knappos

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    I wonder if/hope that Bruce Campbell has a cameo
     
  10. The Nth Doctor

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    We know he's going to be in Raimi's The Multiverse of Madness but no word on whether he'll be in No Way Home. I doubt it.
     
  11. Captaindemotion

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    Have Bruce play all 3 characters from the Raimi trilogy or GTFO
     
  12. suarezguy

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    A lot of superheroes, including in good stories, are incels.

    Watched Far From Home which was painful. I'm suspecting that the writers will make Dr. Octopus into a monster and the Green Goblin into an idiot. If Andrew Garfield Peter Parker is in it he will probably be made fun of for being single.
     
  13. suarezguy

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    Pretty much just the Ultimate version.

    I think he is, to the extent of being derived from anything in the comics, a de-aged Stracyznski version.
     
  14. Nerys Myk

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    wut??
     
  15. The Nth Doctor

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    Just finished watching the third Raimi and...oof. That was even worse than I remembered. Not even J.K. Simmons could save it and he didn't even have villainy back-up this time.

    Yeah...nothing about that whole post made any sense.
     
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  16. theenglish

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    I remember talking about Spider-Man 3 when it came out. My friend, who is not into super-hero lore, shrugged his shoulders and said he couldn't stand the movie--it didn't make any sense. And then he said it wasn't as long as he thought. Turns out he got to the movie way later than he had thought and the first scene he saw was Peter being taken over by Venom.
     
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    Yup. But, he still charms the pants off every scene he is in.
     
  18. suarezguy

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    What is the point of bringing back, as villains to another version of Spider-Man, Molina Dr. Octopus who was a decent man who went bad who reformed and Dafoe Green Golbin who died and Haden Church Sandman who wasn't that bad and maybe reformed? Or Ifans Lizard who was terrible?
     
  20. Timelord Victorious

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    Regarding potential venom…
    the final scene in Let there be Carnage had Brock/Venom seemingly transported elsewhere with a running TV showing a demasked Spider-Man.
    In one of the recent trailers we see Spider-Man broadcast a help call, presumably everywhere (into the multiverse).
    Is that what we see here ?
    Is Venom receiving that call for help? Will he answer it?