You seem to be really stewing over this. That is sad.
Special relationship UK & US (a myth?)
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Not really to be honest, although I can see why it would appear that way. I'm just being reflective of a cultural perspective which isn't shared by many of our mutual cousins in the US.
We've been involved as a nation in enough awful shit of our own without being drawn into more we don't support. That perspective is hardly uncommon here, as I'm sure you've some experience of.
One for mother, one for father, one for you, 342 chests for taxation without representation, and one for the pot. lol
From my cultural perspective, my US cousins' ancestors had to live with their enemies, my ancestors had their enemies as absentee landlords. I wonder who got the better deal lolI
Are you forgetting about the lend lease act?
https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/lend-lease-act
I watch a number of WW1 and WW2 videos on Youtube and it always amuses me when some german kid makes a comment about those fucking American's fake neutrality in WW1 and WW2 and how the Lusitania
deserved to be sunk.
Yep, the US skirted the rules in both wars and backhandedly supplied our allies. And I support that.
Lend lease was comparable to putting most of our military forces on the ground illegally in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Interestingly, from last year J. K. Rowling (reacting to the transition from Obama to Trump) seemed to think there used to be a special relationship with Americans but with Trump now there isn't or there is a specially bad relationship, the positive and negative relationships both seeming strong (comparing them respectively to that of a lover and ex-lover).
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/927525892208947202?lang=en
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/927525892208947202?lang=en
We are a trampy country. Truth.
Only if there’s oil involved.
This may be a joke, or serious comment, who knows?
In a convenient marriage, both sides profit. I am not sure if this would apply to the GB/US-relationship.
Even after the Brexit GB will keep close ties to the EU rather than form an alliance with the US. We're less erratic (for lack of a better word; no offense meant to Americans - it's simply the best word my dictionary offers). In political and economical relationships, reliability and predictability are vital.
Even after the Brexit GB will keep close ties to the EU rather than form an alliance with the US. We're less erratic (for lack of a better word; no offense meant to Americans - it's simply the best word my dictionary offers). In political and economical relationships, reliability and predictability are vital.
Quoting from The Absent Superpower by Peter Zeihan:
"...the United States economy never really internationalized: As a percentage of GDP, the United States is the most self-sufficient economy in the world. As of 2015, only 8.25% of GDP came from merchandise exports, and over one-third of that is bound up in America's NAFTA partners. And that's with old data. With the massive reshoring and industrial manufacturing boom currently underway, many of the remaining aspects of America's foreign 'dependence' are being gutted without mercy or preamble".
It's one sided, from the UKs side.
The USA would've happily watched Hitler take over all over Europe if it wasn't because of Pearl Harbour. They didn't offer any help during the Falklands crisis either.
The USA would've happily watched Hitler take over all over Europe if it wasn't because of Pearl Harbour. They didn't offer any help during the Falklands crisis either.
My mind went back to the ST ENT episodes Stormfront where the Nazis invaded North America. I doubt that Hitler's Third Reich intended to stop at our side of the pond.
It's because they saw Hitler as an ally against communism, they didn't want to hinder his attack on Russia. No doubt they would've gone in to pick up all the pieces in the name of good ol' Uncle Sam.
Why didn't they come in earlier if they're such special friends? We were on our knees while they still lived Hollywood lifestyles all comfortable out the way.