Space Battleship Yamato 2202

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  1. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    It’s very reasonably priced, too. I’ve seen copies of this book on eBay being sold up in the hundreds, not including the stupid-high overseas shipping costs. Some people have been making out like bandits with that thing. I suspect that now it’s becoming more readily available in mass-market, the eBay gouge-prices will start coming down.
     
  2. Noname Given

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    Stuff like this is available if one knows where to look. In the LA area there are plenty of Bookshops in the Little Tokyo area that would carry stuff like this - and there are a number of online outlets too (like CD Japan) that might have this - but again, it takes some research and occasional legwork, which some in today's "gotta have it right now!" culture aren't up to doing. ;)
     
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  3. Khan2012

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    Oh and @137th Gebirg I can give you names for the various Murasames and Kongos we see in the background of 2202 if that helps?
     
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  4. 137th Gebirg

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    Yes please, I’ll be working on those next once I fix the credits on the others I’ve done.
     
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  5. Khan2012

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    Sure! I'll put a detailed list once I rewatch episode 1 (this is a good excuse to rewatch it yay), but here are the ones I remember immediately:
    Murasame-
    UNCN Valdez
    UNCN Kirk
    UNCN Farragut
    Kongo-
    UNCN Independence
    UNCN Ticonderoga
    UNCN Sugarloaf (bizarre I know)

    I'll add more once I have time. Hope this helps!
     
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  6. Ithekro

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    Given some of the Kongo-class names, my guess is that Sugerloaf is named after someplace in the American Revolutionary War. Alternatively, the sight of a battle on Okinawa
     
  7. DarrenTR1970

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    Nah, Sugerloaf is the name of the band that had a hit with 'Green-Eyed Lady'.
    They're obscure rock officiando's.
     
  8. Duncan MacLeod

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    Sugarloaf is also the name of a mountain in Maine.
     
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  9. Mysterion

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    Also one in Brazil near Rio.
     
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  10. 137th Gebirg

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    And Maryland, situated between Frederick and Baltimore.
     
  11. Ithekro

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    There were several Sugerloaf hills and mountains in the 13 colonies, and there were actions or bases on several of them. A massacre at one of them in 1780. I would thing its a Revolutionary War reference only because the other ships are named, Independence, Ticonderoga, Intrepid, Saratoga, and the like. There is also a Patterson, a Pharris, and a Defiant.

    It is interesting that most of the Kongo and Marusame-class ships you see have names (if you can see the sides of their hulls), but most of the later Dreadnoughts have not names, or even visible hull numbers. The first 14 have names and hull numbers clearly visible. The few orange Mars ships have hull numbers like the early ones at Saturn, but the bulk of the fleets have either YF or no hull designation at all (the blue hulls with the red stripes). The Black Andromedas I don't think have hull numbers or names. (All the ones we see close all seem to have the same hull number and name (Andromeda BBB BBB-0001-2203) I suppose they just reused one model. They are automated anyway, so they might not need anything like that. But its reasonable to assume they have advancing hull numbers for the BBB automated ships.
     
  12. 137th Gebirg

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    I suspect since, for some of those scenes, they hit the paste button several hundred times, coming up with names for all of them would have taken longer than rendering the actual footage. :lol:
     
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  13. Khan2012

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    Yeah. We only get ones when the ships are relatively close to the screen. The ones in the far background don't have names or numbers on the hull.

    EDIT: Complete list of ships from episode 1
    Murasame:
    Iroquois
    Patterson
    Farragut
    Intrepid
    Mercy
    Defiant
    Saratoga

    Kongo:
    Hubbardton
    Independence
    Ticonderoga
    Sugarloaf
    Yuunagi
    Pharris
     
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  14. Ithekro

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  15. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    Payday's tomorrow for me, so... :)
     
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    Thank you for that.

    I adore the Neu Deusura. That is what the Discovery should have been facing in the new Trek series.
     
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  17. 137th Gebirg

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    Most welcome! :)
     
  18. skaianDestiny

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    Just a fun little thing I did, some intermediate designs based off the Murasame and Kongou.

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  19. Khan2012

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    Eh..... I feel like the Neu Deusura doesn't fit in the Trek aesthetic at all, what with all the big turrets. Star Trek doesn't really use gun turrets like that. I have my own problems with the Klingon aesthetic in Disco, but honestly the Neu Deusura might have been even worse.
     
  20. Skipper

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    Let's talk a moment about (SPOILER)

    how the crew of the Ginga if crew is composed mainly of women, only because in case of emergency the ship will became a giant flying incubator. And how these women aren't even good at their jobs, so their unique redeeming quality is their capacity of popping out babies. And how they are portrayed them in a very old-fashioned, sexist way as someone who had to be cold and aloof and deny their femininity in order to be capable to do a man's job. And how it's heavily implied that the ship has a female captain not because her merits, but because she's the daughter of a top brass.

    Really, there is the old, plain, vanilla sexism. And then there is Japan, which has perfected it and made it art.
     
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