Sovereign class vs Galaxy class

[Lateralus]

Again; Are your armament statistics based on pre or post Dominion War refit?

Stats off MA. The Galaxys we see in the Dominion War would had two extra arrays on the nacelles, so the pre-DW would be 12 arrays/2 launchers and the DW would be 14 arrays/2 launchers.

Even with its shield negated the E-D should should still have kicked the BoP.

That's one of many reasons why Generations is a horrible movie. And basing your assumptions on events depicted in it is the essence of grasping at straws.

You might not like the movie but it happened and its canon.

You had a go at another user for not basing his comment on available information yet you'll just dismiss it if it doesn't gel with your ideas. That's not very fair.

Whatever. Attacking the Galaxy class for its circumstantial fall in Genertions while ignoring all other depictions of it as an excellent, formidable flag ship is just stupidly selective.

I'll let you roam the rest of the thread freely though, because allowing myself to be further lulled into such a generally meaningless debate, one based entirely on conjecture, would be an enormous waste of an evening.

 

[Jono]

rm comment: Beating a dead horse.

 

[cwl]

the original Sovereign design clearly was not deemed to be powerful enough- she was refitted with 4 extra phasers & 5 extra torpedo tubes.

 

[SilentP]

I'm just wondering, with the extra 8 or so launchers that the Sovereign has over the Galaxy and the much smaller hull volume, where does the Sovereign fit all the torpedoes for it's launchers if they each get the same amount per launcher that the Galaxy has

 

[Jono]

I'm just wondering, with the extra 8 or so launchers that the Sovereign has over the Galaxy and the much smaller hull volume, where does the Sovereign fit all the torpedoes for it's launchers if they each get the same amount per launcher that the Galaxy has

In the space that isn't wasted on crew quarters for families.

 

[SilentP]

In the space that isn't wasted on crew quarters for families.

Well, I thought the Galaxy (42?) does have an extra 18 decks over the Sovereign (24), though I can't be sure as to the Galaxy's number of decks (though I can't remember a definite number of the decks for the Galaxy, anyone know the exact number?). With that many decks gone, the lack of family quarters could easily be part of the removed decks, along with the extra scientific/mission adaptable modules the Galaxy had over the Soverign.

Though that does bring up a point, that the Galaxy would be a larger target for the Sovereign class to hit, so it would be at a disadvantage in that regard, since it's taller and wider, while only marginally shorter.

 

[TheMasterOfOrion]

Sovereign-class maybe, but its a tough battle

 

[docclan1]

which class would win in battle?

To be simply frank about it...

The best writer would win...

Mate that is such a retard reply...obviously its a factual question ie power of each ship (you daft spaz)

such as the soverign being more advanced with more phasers and torpedo tubes plus more advanced armour which on a tech level would mean a soverign has the advantage

i ve spent a good few months trailing through these forums and i get anoyed at peolple like you not actually giving any real response to questions......do u actually have a clue?????????????????? downs syndrome comes to mind....infact ur prob a yank

 

[docclan1]

spaz

 

[docclan1]

rm comment: Beating a dead horse.

honestly...get a grip and speak sense ya fud!! this comment is for jono

 

[Sector 7]

^docclan1, if you really have been here a few months and posting crap like this... I am amazed you are still allowed to post here.
Respond to the POST never the POSTER!

 

[docclan1]

^docclan1, if you really have been here a few months and posting crap like this... I am amazed you are still allowed to post here.
Respond to the POST never the POSTER!

yeah cheers for that.....i will prob sleep better at night now!!

 

[Misfit Toy]

which class would win in battle?

To be simply frank about it...

The best writer would win...

Mate that is such a retard reply...obviously its a factual question ie power of each ship (you daft spaz)

such as the soverign being more advanced with more phasers and torpedo tubes plus more advanced armour which on a tech level would mean a soverign has the advantage

i ve spent a good few months trailing through these forums and i get anoyed at peolple like you not actually giving any real response to questions......do u actually have a clue?????????????????? downs syndrome comes to mind....infact ur prob a yank

This and

spaz

and

rm comment: Beating a dead horse.

honestly...get a grip and speak sense ya fud!! this comment is for jono

earn you an infraction for flaming. Quite an impressive debut...

 

[Arpy]

Put a jet engine on a Model T and it'll kick the ass of any Ferrari. You could slap on the latest upgrades to a Galaxy Class and, because it's bigger and can fit more of materiel (sp?), will outmatch a Sovereign Class also upgraded with the latest tech.

Right out of drydock as originally debuted? The Sovereign, naturally...whaddaya expect, it was built a decade later to be the new flagship. IMO it's a dumb ship, but that's just reality - no shame on the Galaxy.

P.S. The BoP didn't take out the Galaxy in a straight up match. Give a shuttlepod an unfair advantage and it'll take out a fleet of Sovereigns or Defiants just as easily. Hell, folks, Voyager survived a Tactical Cube and the early stages of Big Bang (as in the creation of the universe), and the Delta Flyer escaped a Borg Unicomplex the size of a nebula with trillions of drones. Give. Me. A. Break.

 

[Red Ranger]

Sovereign over original Galaxy. Two words: Quantum torpedoes. Photo finish if it's an upgraded Galaxy. -- RR

 

[NIUPonyBoy]

Sovereign for sure....but it wouldn't be a cakewalk for the Sovereign. The Galaxy is still one tough ship....it would not go easily.

Not really, just overheat the Galaxy (as it seemed to leak coolant like a 1970's GM product) and you have one big fat target.

 

[Arpy]

Sovereign for sure....but it wouldn't be a cakewalk for the Sovereign. The Galaxy is still one tough ship....it would not go easily.

Not really, just overheat the Galaxy (as it seemed to leak coolant like a 1970's GM product) and you have one big fat target.

But you're forgetting that in TNG seasons 8-14, the E-E kept stalling when going to warp because of its overpowered nacelles giving it similar suspenseful moments before it wiped out the bad guys every episode.

Seasons 4-7 of Star Trek: Thunderchild also established that the Akiras have a tendency have their fighterbays lose atmosphere during battle.

And DS9 showed a Defiant, the Defiant, fall in battle even with a hero crew on board, only to be replaced by a ship with (as noted by Dr Bashir) inferior carpeting.

 

[Cyke101]

If an Intrepid class can unfathomably defeat a fighter that:
-is hundreds of years from the future
-was ripping the ship apart with just a couple of phaser blasts

Or if a Runabout can defeat a Jem'Hadar fighter that:
-had weapons that bypass shields
-can wreck havoc on most Starfleet vessels

Then yes, under the proper writing staff, a Galaxy can whup the Sovereign, quantums and all.

 

[SilentP]

If an Intrepid class can unfathomably defeat a fighter that:
-is hundreds of years from the future
-was ripping the ship apart with just a couple of phaser blasts

Or if a Runabout can defeat a Jem'Hadar fighter that:
-had weapons that bypass shields
-can wreck havoc on most Starfleet vessels

Then yes, under the proper writing staff, a Galaxy can whup the Sovereign, quantums and all.

Another example to add to this is an Excelsior with a few upgrades is able to go toe to toe with a Defiant class.

 

[USS KG5]

Fairly meaningless debate really - both are extremely powerful and the victory would go to the ship with the tactical advantage generally, the extra 20% of firepower the Sovereign maybe has would mean little if it is not brought to bear!