Sony Spider-Verse discussion thread
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This Spider Verse situaiton confuses me. I thought they ALREADY had a plan... i mean, they announced that there would be 2 movies when Across was first annonced, right? Seems like they would have plotted both, and just was maybe taking time to plot out the dialogue after they did Across.
It almost feels like Last Jedi and how it was disconnected from episodes 7 and 9.
It feels like Sony mismanagement, despite the success for the first 2
It almost feels like Last Jedi and how it was disconnected from episodes 7 and 9.
It feels like Sony mismanagement, despite the success for the first 2
I don't know if there's really anything to the idea that they're actually scrapping huge sections of content.
It sounded to me like they simply only just barely got the second movie done on time even though they were horrifically overworking the animators and now that they can't do that anymore (and their original timetable probably also assumed that there would actually be work already done on the third film before the second released) they just don't have the slightest chance in hell of getting the third one actually finished in anything resembling a reasonable time frame.
I cna understand about the animation not being started ahead of time...but the script???? Reallly???
I thought recording the dialogue was one of the very first things they did, before they started any of the animation or anything like that? Or is that just TV? I remember being talking about how the actors who voiced the characters in the Star Wars animated series recorded their dialogue like 2 years before the episodes came out.
Has any actually reliable quote been made that they don't have the script ready? Because unless I'm missing something that seems like pure rumor and speculation to me.
They may have a new script by now, the reports (yeah, I know) were that the script they originally had was binned.
Reported by guys with no sources at all who have obvious commercial motive to make fans think they know more than they do. And also directly refuted by multiple people who are actually working on the film.
Brandon Davis' claim doesn't even make sense. They restarted the entire script because they couldn't agree on the ending? Sounds a bit over the top, no?
I don't know who Brandon Davis is. I only heard the supposed news via trickle-down internet. I don't watch the kind of channels I assume you're talking about. If it was debunked, cool.
Ready script or no, we do know that
Edited to correct myself. It wasn't the voice of Miles Morales, it was the voice of alternate Miles Morales. Jharrel Jerome.
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The original sources of all of these reports are Jeff Sneider's scooper newsletter and Brandon Davis' youtube podcast.
The first claimed large parts of the film have been scrapped, the second claimed the entire script was thrown out.
Neither seems extraordinarily trustworthy to me, especially when the actual writer of the film explicitly said nothing has been scrapped.
I agreed from the start the movie is a long way off, I just don't see any reason to believe it's because they casually tossed out the entire script rather than it simply being a very complex undertaking that was laughably underestimated in their wildly optimistic original timetable.
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"Released in 2024" and "haven't started recording one of the leads dialogue in 2025" seems a tad more than underestimated a complex undertaking, but I believe you and I agree for the most part now that you've informed me of certain facts.
I'd say that depends on why they haven't recorded him and how well they can move forward without his lines done. The fact is we don't know either of those things (yes, recording audio first seems to be normal but it's apparently not unheard of to do things in a different order and there are techniques like scratching which could mean that even if they want the traditional order of operations, they could still already be animating him even though his lines aren't recorded yet).
Plus, like I mentioned at the start, it wasn't just pure underestimation. It was also the studio assuming they could keep the animators on extreme forced overtime permanently. A practice they've thankfully been forced to abandon in the wake of the hollywood strikes.
And in the end, if something actually is wrong preventing this actor from recording his lines we a) still don't know that the problem is with the script rather than something else and b) have no way of knowing if the problem applies to any other part of the film or it's just about one character.
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I don't know if there is a Standard Protocol in terms of how Animation is produced, but I do know that the two Animated projects with which I have the most behind-the-scenes familiarity - Voltron Legendary Defender and She-Ra and the Princesses of Power - were both fully completed in their entirety, Animation-wise, before even a single line of dialogue was recorded, and that the dialogue for each of those series' individual seasons was completed in 'blocks' where specific actors would record the dialogue for the entirety of each season either solo or in small groups.
Therefore, as I said, I don't think a lack of dialogue recording happening can actually tell us anything about what is or isn't happening with regards to Beyond the Spider-Verse.
Therefore, as I said, I don't think a lack of dialogue recording happening can actually tell us anything about what is or isn't happening with regards to Beyond the Spider-Verse.
I thought the way original animation was done is that you record the voices first and animate around that, so that the characters animation matches the voice acting better rather than force the actor to conform to the pre-made animation.
You're describing dubbing processes, not original animation
That's not a universal standard, it's just the norm.
Neither VLD or Princesses of Power were Dubs of anything, though.
Also, the information about VLD and Princesses of Power being fully animated in their entirety before dialogue recording was started comes directly from individuals - producers, crew, and actors - involved with those shows as sourced from the AfterBuzz TV Network's VLD Aftershow and the She-Ra: Progressive of Power Podcast.
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Sounds counter-intuitive, that stilts the performance of the actors if they have to mold their voice acting around pre-made animation instead of the animation being done to fit around their voices
Andrew Robinson is gonna be in Spider-Noir!
deadline.com
‘Spider-Noir’: Amy Aquino & Andrew Robinson Join Amazon’s Marvel Series
Amy Aquino and Andrew Robinson round out the recurring cast of Amazon's Marvel series 'Spider-Noir.'
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Hell yes!Andrew Robinson is gonna be in Spider-Noir!
‘Spider-Noir’: Amy Aquino & Andrew Robinson Join Amazon’s Marvel Series
Amy Aquino and Andrew Robinson round out the recurring cast of Amazon's Marvel series 'Spider-Noir.'