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Something random I noticed about Andromeda

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Wasn't sure where to post this as there is no real general scifi thread here but anyway random observation I had during my last rewatch which I ended at the end of season 4. I've gone off season 5. I used to tolerate it but now I can't stand watching it for whatever reason.

Anyway something I noticed is the Andromeda one of or the only scifi hero ship that has no real windows? It has an observation deck but as far as I can recall it doesn't really have much if any actual ship windows.

Are there any other shows or movies that have done that?
 
The 04 Battlestar Galactica is similar I think? Just the one observation lounge window. I guess there's the flight pod museum too, if that counts.
 
Wasn't sure where to post this as there is no real general scifi thread here but anyway random observation I had during my last rewatch which I ended at the end of season 4. I've gone off season 5. I used to tolerate it but now I can't stand watching it for whatever reason.

Anyway something I noticed is the Andromeda one of or the only scifi hero ship that has no real windows? It has an observation deck but as far as I can recall it doesn't really have much if any actual ship windows.

Are there any other shows or movies that have done that?
Interesting, you've made me want to search my brain and see how many I can find.

I would've said Battlestar Galactica (the newer one), but I forgot the giant museum window.
The TARDIS technically has windows, but no one can look out of them.
I don't recall seeing windows on Earth Alliance ships like the Agamemnon in Babylon 5. Not the hero ship, but it is a hero's ship.
The USS Defiant looks like it has windows on the outside, but there's no evidence of that being true in the sets.
The Rocinante in The Expanse has no windows.
I don't recall the Camden Lock in the comedy series Hyperdrive having windows but it's been a while since I saw it.
I couldn't spot any window-like dots of light on the Sulaco in Aliens.
 
A Google search brought me to several images and that was the best looking one. Sorry about that. Could've sworn it had them.

Edit-the show is on Amazon Prime in the US, and checking as you (ugh, the Glish, why did I have to pick that ep), while there are multiple exterior lights on the model, I don't think they can be classified as viewports. Again, apologies for jumping the gun.
 
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On the window theme- in 'First Contact' Picard is giving sort of a tour of the Enterprise to lily and they com across a viewport/window. He demonstrates it does not have glass/transparent aluminum in it, it uses a force field instead.
WTF?- who's stupid idea was that! In the episode 'Disaster' we saw the Enterprise D stripped of most of it's power, if that were the E then everyone near the hull would be dancing in vacuum
 
On the window theme- in 'First Contact' Picard is giving sort of a tour of the Enterprise to lily and they com across a viewport/window. He demonstrates it does not have glass/transparent aluminum in it, it uses a force field instead.
That was a door he opened up. I'm not sure what it was for, maybe the room was connected to a cargo bay or it was for service drones or something; there were a lot of buttons on that control panel he used. It doesn't seem to be used as window though, except in Borg emergencies.
 
I had assumed it was some kind of docking port. The windows in the quarters, lounge and Picard's Ready Room all had glass, or transparent aluminum or whatever they use.

As for the original topic of the thread, most of the mid-level ships in Star Wars, like the Millenium Falcon, the Ghost, the Trailblazer, and the Stinger Mantis only have windows in the cockpit.
 
The Andromeda Ascendant probably didn't have windows because the show originally strove for scientific plausibility. Windows are likely to be a liability in a battleship, as they could expose the crew to radiation or blinding light from explosions, or just from nearby suns. And they do nothing a viewscreen couldn't do as well. There really wouldn't be much to see out a window in space anyway, since, contrary to the way SFTV/film tends to show things, a spaceship is unlikely to be in naked-eye view of much of anything unless it's orbiting a planet or docking with another ship. It's called "space" for a reason -- things are really far apart. Also, another thing TV and movies usually get wrong is something that should be obvious to anyone who's ever looked out their windows at night: if the lights are on inside, you won't be able to see the stars outside. In a well-lit room, a window looking out into space might as well be a mirror. So there's no point having windows anywhere except a darkened observation lounge. (We saw this recently with the Artemis 2 astronauts turning out the capsule's interior lights so they could photograph the Moon.)

Of course, you could always have high-def video screens showing an enhanced image of what's outside, which would let you see it better than a window could. But there'd be no sign of them on the outer hull.

Of course, fiction has its own demands. Windows on a fictional spaceship are very useful for giving a sense of its scale. If you want to make a model ship look huge, you make the windows proportionally small. And windows create visual interest in interior sets and help remind the audience that the characters are in space (as if they need that). Though it can be taken overboard, as with the modern tendency to put big windows on the fronts of Starfleet bridges, when we managed fine for decades with just viewscreens.
 
What really works for ship's window lighting is not to have them all lit- it gives the impression that there are different activities (or lack of them) going on. Not every cabin is full on doing things, some have people sleeping or no one is in them at all and the lights are out in the inactive parts.
Most lit capital ship builds have every window fully lit which just does not look that real to me...

Seeing stars while in lighted ship's cabins does not bother me- it is a problem in our world today but I am sure in the future the would have windows made of a material which reflects nothing at all
 
Seeing stars while in lighted ship's cabins does not bother me- it is a problem in our world today but I am sure in the future the would have windows made of a material which reflects nothing at all

But that doesn't change the fact that in a brightly lit room, your pupils would contract and you wouldn't be able to see dim starlight anyway.

I've often thought about these things over the decades when imagining futuristic starships for my fiction, and I often assumed that the windows would be of some advanced smart material that could amplify the starlight from outside -- although it would also have to be able to dim itself to block out really bright lights like a nearby sun or an exploding torpedo, say. But then I had to figure out how it could dim a bright light directionally without blocking the amplified starlight, regardless of the position of the viewer within the room. I imagined some kind of selectively polarized liquid crystal layer, the crystals aligning with the direction of the incoming light rays, but I don't think that would actually work for observers from any given position in the room. These days, I think it would be simpler just to use a video screen that simulates a window view, amplifying dim lights but with a maximum limit of how bright it could get.
 
IIRC there is a cruse ship that has super hi res video 'windows' in interior cabins so everyone on board has an ocean view no matter where they are located
 
IIRC there is a cruse ship that has super hi res video 'windows' in interior cabins so everyone on board has an ocean view no matter where they are located

Although they wouldn't really match the experience of looking out a window until the technology allows 3D without glasses. Maybe some kind of eye-tracking thing that adjusts the perspective of a 2D image like how Lucasfilm's "Volume" and similar LCD-screen set backgrounds change the perspective to match the camera position, except that would only work for one person in the room at a time.
 
Or better yet sensors that know when the room is occupied and dim the lights appropriately when the person is looking out the window. Wouldn't be hard to accomplish
 
Or better yet sensors that know when the room is occupied and dim the lights appropriately when the person is looking out the window. Wouldn't be hard to accomplish

But what if one person is busy, ohh, chopping vegetables when another person looks out the window and dims the lights? I think it makes more sense to tie it to a verbal command like "Computer, lights," or just a good ol' light switch next to the window, so it's more a matter of the occupants' clear choice. Not everything is improved by being automated.
 
But what if one person is busy, ohh, chopping vegetables when another person looks out the window and dims the lights? I think it makes more sense to tie it to a verbal command like "Computer, lights," or just a good ol' light switch next to the window, so it's more a matter of the occupants' clear choice. Not everything is improved by being automated.

Yeah sometimes simple is best snd a light switch is a good idea
 
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