I just said he was using the excuse of saving the empire as a cover for trying to save his wife.
Seven never assimilated Annorax.
Seven never assimilated Annorax.
Some thoughts on Annorax (Year of Hell)
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In Infinite Regress, when Seven's victims were possessing her, the crew all took turns babysitting Seven, after her duty expired, Janeway accounted that she had had a very interesting conversation with a krenim temporal scientist who had been temporarily diving Sevens body while she was keeping the former drone company.
It's not certainly Annorax, but it's possibly Annorax.
I reread your post, it still sounds like you are saying that the restoration of krenim space was his primary concern, but then I am the poster child for intentions veering at right angles to composed text.
It's not certainly Annorax, but it's possibly Annorax.
I reread your post, it still sounds like you are saying that the restoration of krenim space was his primary concern, but then I am the poster child for intentions veering at right angles to composed text.
That's exactly what Mach was saying. We *see* Annorax choose a different path - we see him NOT make the same mistake again. (The time ship did, after all, do a 'temporal incursion' on itself, so in the new timeline, it will never be built.)
Voyagers writers are dimwits.
Annorax's weapon was OUTSIDE of time. This means that they and the weapons gunsights were moored to a certain narrow selection of days or weeks, or maybe a few years, so that every shot they fired from their platform OUTSIDE (I'm mocking Voyagers writers, not you.) of time, hit squarely at some physical target temporally located during or bloody close to the year of hell, no matter how many Centuries they spent OUTSIDE of time.
If it was 200 actual years later after "killing" his wife in the first experiment, then restoring his misuses world wouldn't have helped much since she would have been dead for two centuries. They were always trying to shape their present, marked with a big red X as the instant worth effecting which mattered, no matter how long it took them.
(this is were I think Voyagers writers really screwed the pooch.)
Because the crew was OUTSIDE of Time... They didn't age, and that is why they all looked exactly the same after two hundred years of goosing father Time.
Bad, bad, bad science.
How can linear time be perceivable that their lives continue on evermore OUTSIDE of time BUT the ageing process is halted entirely without having any nasty terminal side effects like they can't add new body mass from eating or scar tissue in the optic nerve from "seeing" continues to form and heal and a billion other processes even alien bodies have to go through to weather existence.
And what about the diseases and microbes on them? where the "things" living on their bodies also protected from Space time? Surely becoming bacteriological superfarms would have made them look like Vidiians than mostly healthy like they did.
Forcing their bodies not to whither and age would surely have caused an implosion, no?
Exactly!
Granted the weapon did have to be "outside of" or "protected" from "regular" time or between "timelines" to work, otherwise the weapon would be effected by it's own discharge, but assuming that this would also cause immortality is utter ridiculousness...
Granted the weapon did have to be "outside of" or "protected" from "regular" time or between "timelines" to work, otherwise the weapon would be effected by it's own discharge, but assuming that this would also cause immortality is utter ridiculousness...
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The phrophets are noncoporial beings who exist domestically out of time. the don't have biological bodies to worry about even if time kept it as pet like it does us.
Ilinear time not untime however.
It's possible to go outside of time.
It's how most of the time travel episodes work.
but this doesn't mean that your body's physical decisions and growth management would be completely arrested without some kind of one would assume serious life support working in tandem against this environment because if you can't heal from any wound or even replace skin that we all naturally shed during the course of the day... Would their hair grow? the female crew compliment living in an environment where they don't have to shave their legs any more and stubble burn from making out with the hotties is completely academic, might conclude that it would seem like hell to return to "time" and such mortal trivialities.
Dont the Q exist outside of Time?
The Aeon from Futures end was not only outside of time, but outside of "times" (plural!) that Braxton professed to have the tech to scan many timelines simultaneously which must existed side by side wibbly wobbly timey whimey, that each timeline was out side of every other, and alien to every other timeline in onjuction to that there must also've been a membrain dividing or some void/division nontemporal load baring wall ships could exist inside foreign to unusual and unusual universal constants familiar and new separating the different universes.
What about the null area surrounding the Guardian of Forever or Janeways temporal shields for instance in year of hell itself?
Voyager was in a different state of time too which wasn't effected by Annorax's weapon just like Annorax was immune to his own sting too until he returned to time. Were they the same?
Did Voyager's temporal shields make them also (including Kes in some timelines) immortal too, or did it make them immortal but they didn't notice like in Misfits last year or Flint the first time he was impaled? I mean that's a serious consideration to think about bringing home. Immortality. Because of the inconvenience to her crew, one hellish year, Janeway decided that the Federation, the billions and billions of lifeforms therein, didn't deserve to have temporal shields encasing planets and maybe solar systems rendering additional billions of years possibly to the life spans of even the most mayflylike shortlifers in their civilization.
What a bitch.
How brutally selfish, albeit a little ignorant to not have noticed the opportunity, not that it didn't take me a decade myself to catch on, but supposedly she's smarter than I am.
Besides would the Phropets have been "mortal" if they left the celestial temple and began being inflicted by the flow of linear time?
The pah wraiths seemed pretty immortal down in the firecaves.
Were people visiting the Phropets for talk in the wormhole converted into temporarily noncorporial life forms that if they could have constructed some sort of midway station inside the worm whole, would those therein also live for ever?
Maybe Annorax was only as corporial while existing in that realm as he believed to perceive himself to be and the reason he didn't age, none of them aged is because non of them actually had bodies while they were outs side of time but that this was just how their minds coped with existing in such a confusing place?
Ilinear time not untime however.
It's possible to go outside of time.
It's how most of the time travel episodes work.
but this doesn't mean that your body's physical decisions and growth management would be completely arrested without some kind of one would assume serious life support working in tandem against this environment because if you can't heal from any wound or even replace skin that we all naturally shed during the course of the day... Would their hair grow? the female crew compliment living in an environment where they don't have to shave their legs any more and stubble burn from making out with the hotties is completely academic, might conclude that it would seem like hell to return to "time" and such mortal trivialities.
Dont the Q exist outside of Time?
The Aeon from Futures end was not only outside of time, but outside of "times" (plural!) that Braxton professed to have the tech to scan many timelines simultaneously which must existed side by side wibbly wobbly timey whimey, that each timeline was out side of every other, and alien to every other timeline in onjuction to that there must also've been a membrain dividing or some void/division nontemporal load baring wall ships could exist inside foreign to unusual and unusual universal constants familiar and new separating the different universes.
What about the null area surrounding the Guardian of Forever or Janeways temporal shields for instance in year of hell itself?
Voyager was in a different state of time too which wasn't effected by Annorax's weapon just like Annorax was immune to his own sting too until he returned to time. Were they the same?
Did Voyager's temporal shields make them also (including Kes in some timelines) immortal too, or did it make them immortal but they didn't notice like in Misfits last year or Flint the first time he was impaled? I mean that's a serious consideration to think about bringing home. Immortality. Because of the inconvenience to her crew, one hellish year, Janeway decided that the Federation, the billions and billions of lifeforms therein, didn't deserve to have temporal shields encasing planets and maybe solar systems rendering additional billions of years possibly to the life spans of even the most mayflylike shortlifers in their civilization.
What a bitch.
How brutally selfish, albeit a little ignorant to not have noticed the opportunity, not that it didn't take me a decade myself to catch on, but supposedly she's smarter than I am.
Besides would the Phropets have been "mortal" if they left the celestial temple and began being inflicted by the flow of linear time?
The pah wraiths seemed pretty immortal down in the firecaves.
Were people visiting the Phropets for talk in the wormhole converted into temporarily noncorporial life forms that if they could have constructed some sort of midway station inside the worm whole, would those therein also live for ever?
Maybe Annorax was only as corporial while existing in that realm as he believed to perceive himself to be and the reason he didn't age, none of them aged is because non of them actually had bodies while they were outs side of time but that this was just how their minds coped with existing in such a confusing place?
I love temporal mechanics.
Har har... thank you Captain Janeway.
So how does that explain Admiral Janeway supposing that she is some sort of mistress of time? Did she now understand temporal mechanics, or more likely had she just discovered how to replicate aspirin?
The latter, I'm sure.
Which begs the question that if Replicators think that even sugar is an illicit (was this from a novel or actually tng? I recall some one having trouble replicating REAL chocolate.) unreplicatable substance... Janeway might need a note from her doctor to get a few jars of this stern substance to abuse however so much she needs to knock back, to fiddle with the most orderly and beneficial timelines manifesting the goodly well being of humanity and the federation at large.