Some thoughts after watching the movie on blu-ray

[Therin of Andor]

A whole other deminsion that really could've added a nice layer to the movie if included.

Which would have added an hour to the movie and had the general public grumbling.

Roddenberry's novelization of TMP adds "a nice layer" to that movie - and I came out of TMP secretly thrilled that I'd impatiently read the novelization in those days waiting for someone to accept my offer to go to the movies to see it.

 

[realtrekkie]

I have another issue for you...

While trying to escape the black hole, the Enterprise is "warping" away, but staying relatively stationary, giving testament to the massive gravitational force of the black hole. When the warp cores are ejected, what keeps the Enterprise from suddenly flying back at the same speed as the cores? And how does the Enterprise then continue to "warp away" after the shockwave has thrown them clear of the gravity well?

As for the earlier issue of Nero knowing what Spock would be forced to see, he was brought back in time BECAUSE of the Red Matter, or at least some tech causing black holes.

Also, how is it that Delta Vega was not also drawn into the black hole, considering that the whole event was visible in the day sky.


As for the travel duration between Earth and Vulcan, I only see ONE possible location for a major gap in time, but even there, I doubt it very much. After Kirk is sedated, and then once Sulu says engines are at maximum is the ONLY location, because during that scene, Chekov says ETA is in 3 minutes, unless he is somehow talking for an hour, and we only hear some of it.

 

[SalvorHardin]

I have another issue for you...

While trying to escape the black hole, the Enterprise is "warping" away, but staying relatively stationary, giving testament to the massive gravitational force of the black hole. When the warp cores are ejected, what keeps the Enterprise from suddenly flying back at the same speed as the cores? And how does the Enterprise then continue to "warp away" after the shockwave has thrown them clear of the gravity well?

Watch the scene again.

As soon as the core is ejected, you can see the Enterprise starting to move backwards, closer to the black hole.
It doesn't go to the black hole as fast as the cores because the cores were ejected towards it and didn't start from a stationary position with 0 speed as the Enterprise.

After the shockwave the Enterprise does not warp away.
You can clearly realize that since we see it moving in normal space and not in the warp space effect that was used in the movie.
It moves at the speed the shockwave push gave it and maybe impulse speed.

 

[realtrekkie]

As for Nero speaking to Romulus, the reason all the Romulans died and weren't evacuated was politics to begin with. The government would not believe Nero or Spock or anybody from the Federation when they informed them of the impending danger. They were typically very stubborn and turned a deaf ear. That's in the prequel comic book, "Countdown." There's no chance anybody would have paid attention to Nero twenty five years earlier.

As Spock Prime himself said, it is another 129 years until the destruction will occur, so the Romulans don't need to evacuate yet, and their council may not care yet, but as for those who ask why he does not just evacuate his wife... what is he going to do? Evacuate his and his wife's parents/grandparents? He is almost certainly NOT born yet, and I would be hesitant to even go so far as to say his Grandparents are either...

 

[realtrekkie]

okay, I will give you that Enterprise doesn't warp away, but the cores are shot up vertically, and are pulled toward the black hole much quicker than Enterprise, although that may be due to their mass differential