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Some Fantastic Four Reboot news

Robert Maxwell said:
captcalhoun said:
^ i could say it in four: you're. not. funny. asshole.

RE: F4, i liked both the movies. they were fun. and they really ought to bring back Chiklis and Evans, but i read Thing's going to be CG this time...
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Even if the Thing's gonna be CG they'll have to mocap a real person. It's still not possible, as far as I know, to do a convincing humanoid CG character without using mocap.
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The problem is "weight". A pure CG character w/o mo-cap doesn't have the tell-tale little twitches and jerks that characterize the motion of a real person. That gives the CG a "floating", smooth quality that doesn't look right to the eye.
 
darkwing_duck1 said:
Yet she was able to very much take it and run with it. She showed Sue as being very smart, not afraid to stand up for herself when she needed to, but also very femme, which not a lot of Marvel Women are portrayed as being.
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I'll give you that.
I've never found Sue in the comics to be strong willed or smart beyond simple common sense nor does she ever truly seem to mind that Reed never pays her much attention.

I also agree with you about the "weight" not being right in CGI.
 
darkwing_duck1 said:
Silvercrest said:
darkwing_duck1 said:
He was never an "employee" of Doom's, he was an independent researcher who came to Doom looking for backing for his experiment.
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Hmm, forgot that one.
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SUE was working for Doom. Maybe you mixed the two up.

Having her be something in her own right outside of being "Reed's girl" I thought added to her character.
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Yeah, that was what I meant by her relationship with Reed. I was fine with that.

I just realized something. Wasn't her relationship with Victor in the movie basically the same as what happened with Namor in the comics? You know, handsome, virile, arrogant stud shows up and sweeps her off her feet, almost stealing her from Reed before she comes to her senses and goes back to him. I know, she wasn't with Reed when movie Victor came along, but still....

"PRATTLING DOLT! YOUR LAUGHTER MOCKS THE MONARCH OF LATVERIA! SO SAYS DOOM!!!" :devil:
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KNEEL BEFORE DOOM!!!

No wait, that's General Zod. Wow, the two of them have almost the same dialogue. I'd love to see them as drinking buddies. Just once.
 
exodus said:
darkwing_duck1 said:
Yet she was able to very much take it and run with it. She showed Sue as being very smart, not afraid to stand up for herself when she needed to, but also very femme, which not a lot of Marvel Women are portrayed as being.
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I'll give you that.
I've never found Sue in the comics to be strong willed
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Not in the brash, in your face, almost butch way a lot of Marvel Women are, at least. She has quiet strength.

or smart beyond simple common sense
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In the books, that's all she really needs to fill her "niche" as "den mother" to the team. Though seeing her portrayed as a truly "working woman" in the movies didn't bother me at all, as she still had all the mothering qualities she's known for.

nor does she ever truly seem to mind that Reed never pays her much attention.
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Which is why she's perfect for Reed. She's very "low maintenance." She knows Reed loves her, and she is secure in her relationship without a lot of flashy "shows" of how he feels.
 
darkwing_duck1 said:
Yet she was able to very much take it and run with it. She showed Sue as being very smart, not afraid to stand up for herself when she needed to, but also very femme, which not a lot of Marvel Women are portrayed as being.
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She didn't so much run as stumble unconvincingly whilst looking ridiculous.
 
Silvercrest said:
I just realized something. Wasn't her relationship with Victor in the movie basically the same as what happened with Namor in the comics? You know, handsome, virile, arrogant stud shows up and sweeps her off her feet, almost stealing her from Reed before she comes to her senses and goes back to him. I know, she wasn't with Reed when movie Victor came along, but still....
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Noticed that, did you?

"PRATTLING DOLT! YOUR LAUGHTER MOCKS THE MONARCH OF LATVERIA! SO SAYS DOOM!!!" :devil:
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KNEEL BEFORE DOOM!!!

No wait, that's General Zod. Wow, the two of them have almost the same dialogue. I'd love to see them as drinking buddies. Just once.
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I think Doom would find Zod beneath him. Zod is a bully and a thug by and large. He's in it for the ego boo of watching lesser beings grovel before him.

Doom is a monarch of the old school. He simply expects the groveling as his due as a King. That and Doom I think has a a twisted nobless oblige (sp?) that Zod utterly lacks.
 
darkwing_duck1 said:
exodus said:
darkwing_duck1 said:
Yet she was able to very much take it and run with it. She showed Sue as being very smart, not afraid to stand up for herself when she needed to, but also very femme, which not a lot of Marvel Women are portrayed as being.
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I'll give you that.
I've never found Sue in the comics to be strong willed
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Not in the brash, in your face, almost butch way a lot of Marvel Women are, at least. She has quiet strength.

or smart beyond simple common sense
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In the books, that's all she really needs to fill her "niche" as "den mother" to the team. Though seeing her portrayed as a truly "working woman" in the movies didn't bother me at all, as she still had all the mothering qualities she's known for.

nor does she ever truly seem to mind that Reed never pays her much attention.
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Which is why she's perfect for Reed. She's very "low maintenance." She knows Reed loves her, and she is secure in her relationship without a lot of flashy "shows" of how he feels.
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Yeah I guess that's true.
She is the glue that holds the team together.
When Reed, Ben & Johnny were all in inner turmoil, she was there calm in the storm........so too speak.
 
exodus said:
Yeah I guess that's true.
She is the glue that holds the team together.
When Reed, Ben & Johnny were all in inner turmoil, she was there calm in the storm........so too speak.
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Exactly. And that's what makes her stand out from other Marvel Women. She's all girl as well as all hero. She isn't the aloof, untouchable goddess (Storm), or the I can kick your ass butch (Electra), or the good girl/bad girl which is she this week (Jean Grey) or a high-maintenance "lady" (Silver Sable, Emma Frost).

She's mother, sister, friend and lover. She is very much a "traditional" woman, and quite ok with it.
 
Dennis said:
Of these two it's gotta be Rhys-Meyers in keeping with the Hollywood mini-tradition - going back to Corman's version - of casting a Brit for Reed. :lol:
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Ahem, Jonathan Rhys-Meyers (AKA Jonathan Michael Francis O'Keefe) is Irish. And I have a patriotic duty to support his casting, seeing as he's a fellow Dubliner transplanted to Cork while a mere babe in arms! :lol: Sure, he could almost be my twin. ;)
 
Stephen Moyer when asked during the Emmy's last weekend about auditioning for "Fantastic Four" said he knew nothing of it. So chalk up another ill reported story for comicbookmovie.com
 
ObiWanShinobi said:
I cold ge behind that. Him and Julian McMahon have a similar look.
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I'll never understand why they didn't alter Doom's voice when he was wearing the mask. Chiliks' voice became gravelly when he became the Thing but McMahon sounded like a bitch when he put the mask on. It made the character loose his intimidation factor. I think McMahon was a perfect choice but that aspect annoys the hell out of me.
 
I either think that they didn't think about dropping his voice or synthesizing it or McMahon didn't want to do it.
 
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