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So What Are you Reading?: Generations

I'm a little curious about Arsene Lupin since there are two Japanese TV series based on his legacy -- the manga/anime series Lupin the Third (including Hayao Miyazaki's debut feature The Castle of Cagliostro, which I recently got to rewatch on Netflix), which is about Lupin's grandson, and the current Super Sentai series Lupinranger VS Patranger, in which a team of "phantom thief" Rangers and a team of police Rangers battle over the "Lupin Collection" of mystically powered artifacts acquired by Arsene Lupin. Since I'm familiar with those, it might be worth checking out the thing they're both inspired by (although LvP is probably more inspired by Lupin the Third than directly by the Leblanc stories).

I wonder, does the original Lupin have a relentless, obsessive policeman nemesis like his Japanese inheritors do?
 
I'm a little curious about Arsene Lupin since there are two Japanese TV series based on his legacy -- the manga/anime series Lupin the Third (including Hayao Miyazaki's debut feature The Castle of Cagliostro, which I recently got to rewatch on Netflix), which is about Lupin's grandson, and the current Super Sentai series Lupinranger VS Patranger, in which a team of "phantom thief" Rangers and a team of police Rangers battle over the "Lupin Collection" of mystically powered artifacts acquired by Arsene Lupin. Since I'm familiar with those, it might be worth checking out the thing they're both inspired by (although LvP is probably more inspired by Lupin the Third than directly by the Leblanc stories).

I'm aware of Lupin the Third (I've had to write about it for work, without having ever seen it, which is typical of my work), but not Lupinranger. I'm actually curious about Lupin the Third, but the manga is out of print in the US (I believe Tokyopop holds the rights); it's one of those things I just haven't gotten to yet.

I first encountered Lupin in Ellery Queen's anthology The Misadventures of Sherlock Holmes (which is long overdue for a reprint, and which I hope Titan will tackle as part of their Further Adventures book line). The anthology reprints the last story in The Extraordinary Adventures, "Sherlock Holmes Arrives Too Late," which is the first meeting of Holmes and Lupin. Leblanc plays the encounter very straight; it's not a joke like the battle between Holmes and Raffles in John Kendrick Bangs' R. Holmes & Co. More recently, a friend posted on Twitter a series of covers from a young adult series of novels about Sherlock Holmes, Arsene Lupin, and Irene Adler as childhood friends (Sherlock, Lupin & Me), and I was really intrigued by the concept. I enjoyed the first two books, then realized that I didn't really know Lupin except for a long-ago memory.

Fortunately, Standard Ebooks has free, nicely formatted ebooks of the first five Lupin books. (When I say "nicely formatted," I've paid money for ebooks that are terribly and offensively formatted. These, on the other hand, are very professionally done. Just because they're public domain texts and Standard Ebooks is a volunteer project, that's no reason not to do a professional job.) If you're interested, download the first book and give it a try. You can't beat free. :)

I wonder, does the original Lupin have a relentless, obsessive policeman nemesis like his Japanese inheritors do?

Yes, Ganimard of the Paris police. He's not a Lestrade, he's no idiot. He's pretty sharp, and if he has a failing it's that Lupin is slightly cleverer than he is.
 
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Finished the “A Time To...” series yesterday. The epilogue spoils Nemesis a bit. They should put a warning there. :)
All-in-all is a was a good series of books. Answered all the loose ends pretty well. Made me appreciate Vale a little more but I’m still not a big fan of her.
Currently reading Enterprise: The First Adventure. A confusing title since it isn’t that but Kirk’s first adventure on the ship but no matter. For some reason the author keeps saying the Enterprise is a Constellation Class ship.
 
I'm aware of Lupin the Third (I've had to write about it for work, without having ever seen it, which is typical of my work), but not Lupinranger.

We talk about it a lot in the "Power Rangers" thread in the SF&F forum (it really should've been renamed "Power Rangers and Super Sentai" by now).


I'm actually curious about Lupin the Third, but the manga is out of print in the US (I believe Tokyopop holds the rights); it's one of those things I just haven't gotten to yet.

Probably the best incarnation of it is Cagliostro, since that's Miyazaki, but it's also apparently the least representative, making the character more heroic and gentle, and portraying Fujiko without her usual sexualization. (Disturbingly, the manga creator said about Cagliostro that his version of Lupin would have raped the teenage princess instead of rescuing her.) I recently came upon another, non-Miyazaki Lupin III movie on a free streaming site, The Legend of the Gold of Babylon from 1985, and I couldn't even get through it. It was much cruder and more slapsticky, with uglier animation, and it wasn't very funny; plus it was set in the US and featured a number of very outdated caricatures of black characters, like something out of 1940s cartoons (an image that's persisted in Japan long after it became unacceptable in the West).


Yes, Ganimard of the Paris police. He's not a Lestrade, he's no idiot. He's pretty sharp, and if he has a failing it's that Lupin is slightly cleverer than he is.

From what I've seen of Lupin III's nemesis Koichi Zenigata, he's quite sharp and canny (though Lupin is slightly cleverer), but his main characteristic is a Wile E. Coyote-esque obsession with the chase and an utterly passionate devotion to the law and fury toward criminals. The leader of the Patrangers, Keiichiro, has much the same personality.
 
Currently reading Enterprise: The First Adventure. A confusing title since it isn’t that but Kirk’s first adventure on the ship but no matter. For some reason the author keeps saying the Enterprise is a Constellation Class ship.

Calling the Enterprise a "Constellation-class ship" was a weird little tic in Vonda McIntyre's work. In her novelizations for Star Trek II and Star Trek III, there's a "Galaxy-class ship," the USS Magellanic Clouds, that's designed for a survey of the Andromeda Galaxy.
 
Finished Assassin's Creed:Odyssey and though I guess that there are major spoilers to the game, I suspect it's also missing huge chunks and characters.

I'm just about to start A Girl in Time by John Birmingham.
 
Calling the Enterprise a "Constellation-class ship" was a weird little tic in Vonda McIntyre's work.

That comes from Bjo Trimble's Star Trek Concordance. McIntyre was just using the references available to her. Trimble's also the reason some writers refer to Dr. Boyce as Joseph rather than Philip.

McIntyre was also clearly using The Making of Star Trek as one of her main references, since she said in Enterprise: The First Adventure that Kirk took command of the E at age 29 (TMoST said he was 34 and had been in command for over 4 years).
 
I'm reading a Halloween mystery The catered costumed costume party by Isis Crawford. It's an interesting about a lost treasure and treasure hunters.I've enjoyed reading this book .
 
Having just finished re-reading the "Calhoun" CT book, I'm now reading (for the first time) Anne of Green Gables. If anybody here has heard the rumor that the people of Prince Edward Island in general, and the people of Charlottetown in particular, are a little bit obsessed with that book, well, they're not. They're stark raving nuts about it. Loony as a $1 Canadian coin.
What too many people misunderstand about the original intent of the term "Mary Sue" is that it didn't just mean a guest star who dominated the story more than the main characters -- since such things were actually common and encouraged in '60s and '70s TV dramas that aspired to an anthology-like flavor -- but an example of that type of character done badly, given the spotlight without deserving it.
Mr. Bennett, you evidently misunderstand what a subverted trope is. TVTropes defines it thusly:
Basically, this is playing bait and switch with a trope. A work makes you think a trope is going to happen.
. . . .
Phrased another way, the work is ultimately revealed not to be using the trope at all, but in the meantime was played up to look like like it was.
 
Seriously? You're trying to get pedantic with someone who's been a pedant for 56 years? :nyah:

If Carey wasn't consciously and intentionally building the reader up to expect a Mary-Sue, giving Piper absurdly implausible talents (e.g., MacGyvering her way out of confinement to quarters with a curling iron, or beating "Kobayashi Maru" with a hand communicator, by making the simulator fight itself), only to turn the tables on reader expectations, I don't know who is.

And to all others: anytime Mr. Bennett and I are in complete agreement on a matter . . . be afraid. Be very afraid.
 
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Having just finished re-reading the "Calhoun" CT book, I'm now reading (for the first time) Anne of Green Gables. If anybody here has heard the rumor that the people of Prince Edward Island in general, and the people of Charlottetown in particular, are a little bit obsessed with that book, well, they're not. They're stark raving nuts about it. Loony as a $1 Canadian coin.

Mr. Bennett, you evidently misunderstand what a subverted trope is. TVTropes defines it thusly:
OK, this has been bugging me. Why do you keep putting Calhoun is quotes?
 
I started re-reading Star Trek Legacies Book 2 Best defense By David Mack. Sarek is acting like areal jerk in this book.Especially to Spock and Kirk and his crew.while investigatin things happening on Centaurus.
 
OK, this has been bugging me. Why do you keep putting "Calhoun" is quotes?
FTFY :p

Slightly more seriously, I think it's because it's the Calhoun entry in a series where you can reasonably call every other book by the name of a certain character*, so it practically replaces the title, hence the quotes.
 
Precisely. If I referred to it by title (Once Burned), how many people would instantly recognize it as "the CT book about Calhoun"? Whereas, simply calling it "the 'Calhoun' Captain's Table book" (or "the 'Calhoun' CT book," with the CT series already admitted to the discussion) makes it identifiable whether you remember the titles or not.
 
The trek book I'm currently reading is "Emissary", by author J. M. Dillard. It's the novelization of the first Deep Space Nine episode. It's cool to remember all the mixed emotions Sisko was going through at that time.
 
Amost finished The Girl in Time by John Birmingham. I enjoyed it.

Next up is probably V: East Coast Crisis by A C Crispin & Howard Weinstein. It's been a long long time since I last read that one so I think it's about time.
 
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