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So we got about a billion years left...

Zeppster

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As far as we are concerned anyway.

Didn't see this posted in the last week since we've been back. Sorry if it has.

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/16823/1066/


While the figure was always put at around 5 billion years for this to happen when I remember going to school, University of Sussex astronomers have calculated that the Earth, in around 1 billion years, will see its oceans boil away into space.
 
That article says we have 7.6 billion years with the fixes, but couldn't we just keep moving it back?

Plus the number has changed so many times the range is 200 million to 10 billion before the sun expands. We will be dead, the human race will be dead, the race after the human race will be dead and so on.

Plus the moon is supposed to fly away and the weather goes insane with the Earth violently shaking, killing all life. The land masses will form back to one and the weather will go screwy. Hell I'm pretty sure in out galaxy will collide with another before the sun expands.
 
That article says we have 7.6 billion years with the fixes, but couldn't we just keep moving it back?

Plus the number has changed so many times the range is 200 million to 10 billion before the sun expands. We will be dead, the human race will be dead, the race after the human race will be dead and so on.

Plus the moon is supposed to fly away and the weather goes insane with the Earth violently shaking, killing all life. The land masses will form back to one and the weather will go screwy. Hell I'm pretty sure in out galaxy will collide with another before the sun expands.

If you read the article it says the earth will be destroyed in about 7.6 billion years. But we'll be long gone before then. Life on this planet will be long extinct before the billion years probably.
 
I must have read it wrong, I have this on and off headache. I thought it said in a billion years the sun would start to expand and we would be in trouble and in 7.6 billion years we would still die even by moving the planet.

I'll reread it later.
 
Plus the moon is supposed to fly away

I'd like more info on this because on countless occasions ive been told and read that the moon is moving TOWARD the Earth and is falling into Earths gravity, and yet ive been told and read elsewhere that the Moon is moving AWAY from the Earth.

So which is it people?

Shouldnt the moon fall in toward Earth? the planets are falling closer to the sun and physics would imply the Moon should be falling toward Earth, I mean how can the moon be escaping the Earths gravity well? an object like a sun or planet bends the fabric of space and the reason other objects orbit them is because they're captured by the gravity well and are slowly falling into it, so what the heck is going on??? :confused::confused::confused:
 
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Plus the moon is supposed to fly away

I'd like more info on this because on countless occasions ive been told and read that the moon is moving TOWARD the Earth and is falling into Earths gravity, and yet ive been told and read elsewhere that the Moon is moving AWAY from the Earth.

So which is it people?

Shouldnt the moon fall in toward Earth? the planets are falling closer to the sun and physics would imply the Moon should be falling toward Earth, I mean how can the moon be escaping the Earths gravity well? an object like a sun or planet bends the fabric of space and the reason other objects orbit them is because they're captured by the gravity well and are slowly falling into it, so what the heck is going on??? :confused::confused::confused:

The moon is slowly moving away from the Earth. It's not really noticeable by us, but it is moving away like a centimeter or two a year
 
Shouldnt the moon fall in toward Earth? the planets are falling closer to the sun and physics would imply the Moon should be falling toward Earth, I mean how can the moon be escaping the Earths gravity well? an object like a sun or planet bends the fabric of space and the reason other objects orbit them is because they're captured by the gravity well and are slowly falling into it, so what the heck is going on??? :confused::confused::confused:


Obviously it's not falling directly towards the Earth, or it would have hit long ago. its momentum keeps trying to move it in a straight line away from us, but Earth's gravity keeps arcing it back around. It's a balance, and it shouldn't be surprising that the balance could be slightly off in one direction as easily as in the other.

If you're thinking that orbits happen due to twisting of space-time, I'm afraid Earth doesn't have nearly a strong enough gravity well for that. Only near a black hole does space become so twisted that a straight line appears to be a spiral from the outside.
 
The Moon is moving away from the Earth at a rate of 38 millimeters per year. This is cuased by the effects of the tidal bulge here on Earth (the effect is called Tidal Acceleration), which is also causing the Earth’s rotation to slow by 17 microseconds per year.

In about two billion years (life as we know it will have been gone for a little over a billion years and the oceans should just be finished boiling off) the Earth and Moon will reach a state of tidal lock (each will always face the other with the same side) as a secondary effect of spin-orbit resonance. It is believed that this moment of equilibrium will be short lived and the Moon will then reverse course and begin to fall into the Earth’s gravity well; however, by the time collision becomes a threat the Earth and Moon will have long been vaporized by the expansion of Mr. Sun.

The Sun, as a main sequence Population 1 star, will reach its chilling end years as a white dwarf in about 10 billion years. It has, since its birth, been increasing in brilliance and temperature and, negligibly, diameter. It is currently in its midlife of the main sequence and will enter the rapid expansion phase in about 4.5 billion years. In that time the sun, slightly larger, but magnitudes brighter, will expand to a red giant in less than 1 billion years. After approximately another 1 to 2 billion years the sun will shed its outer layers in a series of pulsations during the planetary nebula stage. It will then be left as a hot stellar core, cooling to become a white dwarf.

As far as we are concerned (and I use “we” to represent all living things in the biosphere) the sun will only be useful to us for another 500 million years; it is during this time that we will be able to live much as we do now; however, it will become increasingly difficult to do this as we come closer to that timeframe. By then the luminosity will have increased by 5 -10 percent forcing us to radically change the way we live – living underground or sheltered from direct exposure to the Sun. These “lifestyle changes” won’t suffice for “long” (approximately 400 million years), by that time (900 million years from today) the increase in the Earth’s surface temperature will be high enough to have accelerated the inorganic carbon dioxide cycle to levels lethal to plant life; and that, as they say, is the end of that. A billion years after this the oceans will have just about been boiled away and most of the atmosphere, long hostile to life as we know it, vaporized into space.

The interesting thing to note in all of this is that the timescales are long enough that species inhabiting Mother Earth 500 million years from now will be as radically different as they are from us now to 500 million years ago (the approximate time of the appearance of plant life on the surface of the planet coinciding with the Cambrian explosion). In addition, Andromeda will be nearly a third larger in appearance. Unfortunately, life on Earth will have perished long before the actual “collision” takes place (in approximately 3 billion years) between the Milky Way and Andromeda.
 
And the longest living species on this planet is a lot less than a billion years. I don't know exact numbers but it's probably a lot less than 100 million years. Humans are only a few thousand years old really. So basically we have plenty of time left.
 
I just realised, in 500 million years when the Earth becomes unable to support life our technology will have probably progressed so far we could actually have the technology to move the Earth into another star system. How cool would that be.
 
I just realised, in 500 million years when the Earth becomes unable to support life our technology will have probably progressed so far we could actually have the technology to move the Earth into another star system. How cool would that be.

Interesting... lets assume the Earth doesn't kill all life with volcanism and things stay "basically" the same. In 500 million years could we move the Earth and moon to lets say the nearest star system Proxima Centauri? Would it survive? Don't see how but what a fascinating thought!
 
There aren't many real life forms that have existed on this planet that have lasted over a million years. I doubt humans even exist in 500 million years. Maybe something that evolves from us. We've only been around about 50k years at the most. Our written history only goes back roughly 6-10k years. So we are a relatively young race. But there's no way we'll still be around in millions or billions of years.
 
After watching Life After People its nice to know that the earth will continue without us long after we are gone. The earth deserves to no longer have our presence.
 
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