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Spoilers So now Discovery is 'synched-up' with canon

...there's s suprising amount lifted right from the 2250's with mostly a production gloss over.

There was next-to-nothing known of the Prime 2250's (there was only one hour of material set in that time period) prior to Discovery. So what exactly did they lift? Some plants from Talos and a wheelchair?
 
Why is it so important that it all keep going? And, if we're talking TOS (as much as I'm a fan), there's a lot that has to be tossed. If you have to shear it to the bare bones in order to keep it, then what's the point?
Think there is plenty to keep. Sexism in TOS is indeed jarring, but it is actually less prevalent an egregious than you make it to seem. I am perfectly willing to gloss over it and continuity wise pretend it didn't happen. They pretty much did that from TMP onwards anyway.
 
Which is not 23rd century era technology and has not become standard technology in kelvin timeline starfleet.
Inexplicably so, considering that they certainly had the data for it and were able to duplicate it. Harrison used it to beam to Kronos. There is no practical reason to not to use it, except that it would kill the whole concept of Star Trek and turn it into Stargåte.
 
Since you can't run the spore drive without a tardigrade or tardigrade DNA, and since the tardigrades aren't likely to start hanging out with aspiring mushroom experts after all this went down, I'd say I agree that the spore drive is done and cleanly buried.

Very simple in my mind.
For all we know Tardigrades are ruling over the Federation in 32nd century. So not only are there many of them around, they are also the enemies of the Federation. So let's say Stamets is in a coma for half a season, so stealing one for their DNA is not going to sound so bad :)
 
There is no practical reason to not to use it, except that it would kill the whole concept of Star Trek and turn it into Stargåte.

It would still be the exact same Star Trek. Like with the regular transporter, a fifteen second line of dialogue can disable it.
 
They can do whatever they want in my mind, as I treat it as a reboot. They can have Kirk as the illegitimate child of Christopher Pike and Number One, if that tickles there fancy.
I'm sure there is already some fan-fiction to that regard! And it there isn't, wtf not?!
 
Inexplicably so, considering that they certainly had the data for it and were able to duplicate it. Harrison used it to beam to Kronos. There is no practical reason to not to use it, except that it would kill the whole concept of Star Trek and turn it into Stargåte.

He used the only finished unit, which burned out, and blew up the special weapons unit of Section 31 where it was being worked on, incinerating their datacores. They've lost the ability now.
 
Inexplicably so, considering that they certainly had the data for it and were able to duplicate it. Harrison used it to beam to Kronos. There is no practical reason to not to use it, except that it would kill the whole concept of Star Trek and turn it into Stargåte.

I am absolutly sure there are many practical reasons in-universe to not use that technology as standard. For explorartion of unknown territory it is almost useless and if it is like suspace beaming it needs a lot of energy. And it is new to starfleet, so they have no long time data about it. So it's highly experimental technology at this point and for sure considered far to dangerous for regular use.

So transwarp beaming is in no way comparable to all the regular technology we see in DSC Starfleet. It is more compareable to the spore drive, to M5 or Soliton Waves. Nothing that changes the way of using technology in whole Starfleet.
 
He used the only finished unit, which burned out, and blew up the special weapons unit of Section 31 where it was being worked on, incinerating their datacores. They've lost the ability now.
Did you manage to write that with a straight face? It is completely absurd that such a critical data would just be stored in one place with no backups. It would be completely absurd today, it would be even more absurd in the future. Information really doesn't vanish anymore. This same criticism certainly applies to the ending of this season of DIS, to get use back to the topic.
 
Did you manage to write that with a straight face?

As straight as the rest of me. People bitched so much about it in the first movie they wrote it out in the second, the third ignores the issue altogether to get on with it's own story. Section 31 obivously thought their London facility was unbreachable and held all their suepr secret projects there, other than Vengeance.

Which was cleaned up after a very public incident that would have needed an inquiry, not much chance to keep it all secret then...
 
Did you manage to write that with a straight face? It is completely absurd that such a critical data would just be stored in one place with no backups. It would be completely absurd today, it would be even more absurd in the future. Information really doesn't vanish anymore. This same criticism certainly applies to the ending of this season of DIS, to get use back to the topic.
Playing the devil's advocate here: https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/05/tech/quadriga-gerald-cotten-cryptocurrency/index.html
Of course the whole thing is fishy as hell, there is probably a lot we don't know yet.

But yes, this whole news story is completely absurd, even today. Just because it happened it doesn't make it less absurd.
 
I just want a coherant series, Disco, as mentioned before, has been a mis mash of ideas from the word go, with way to many producers and show runners, but as mentioned, Tng went through the same, so I'm hopefull that the 3rd season of Disco will be a dawn of a new golden age as the 3rd season of Tng was :)
 
In the end, a lot of the season felt very reactionary. The attitude of "synching up with canon" seems directed squarely at the haters who think the show is nothing but one massive canon violation and they were desperate to gain their trust.

And not for nothing but the idea of ending the season like this didn't make a lot of sense to me. This is a mentality more suited if this were the end of the series. There's still a good nine years before the official start of TOS. It's not as if it begins the next day. The series is not overlapping with TOS in any way, if you consider TOS strictly as what was aired from 1966-1969.

But, hey, if they want to go into the future because it will free them from having to adhere to canon, then, awesome. Go for it. I'm excited to see what the future holds. I just didn't think it was wholly necessary. There are plenty of stories they can tell in the 23rd century without viewing canon as some massive storm cloud threatening to rain hell down on them if the slightest perceived slip is made.
 
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In the end, a lot of the season felt very reactionary. The attitude of "synching up with canon" seems directed squarely at the haters who think the show is nothing but one massive canon violation and they were desperate to gain their trust.

And not for nothing but the idea of ending the season like this didin't make a lot of sense to me. This is a mentality more suited if this were the end of the series. There's still a good nine years before the official start of TOS. It's not as if it begins the next day.

Maybe the prospects for the series being renewed weren't great at the time they wrote this episode, and they were giving themselves a backdoor series finale?

In terms of it being reactive, I'd have to think of when exactly this season was being written and when filmed. I know they did all this not knowing that Pike would be such a huge hit with the fans.
 
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