So I just came back from a second viewing....

[satchelmouth]

And after that, minus the elation of having seen something trek for the first time in years, I think I can make a more sobering assesment of the movie than after my first viewing.

Loved:
- Leonard Nimoy, just who couldn't love that guy.
- Vulcan destroyed, no reset button. I understand the time travel storyline and that this is an alternate universe, and have no problem with that. It's like VOY: Year of Hell, only good.
- Sylar as Spock, Caesar from Xena as McCoy, both did good job of channeling their previous incarnations.

Disliked:
- Chekov's accent started to get grating after a while, and I was having horrible flashbacks of Wesley Crusher.
- Uhura didn't do much, like usual.
- The musical score, Jerry Goldsmith's old score would have been much more appropriate as it self identifies with trek.
- You'd think if they were going to reference Enterprise, they'd have at least said president Archer, rather than Admiral (you usually go with their highest achieved rank)

Absolutely Hated:
- Cardboard villain out for revenge, aka Khan 2.0, only you know, without charisma.
- Kirk getting promoted to Captain right out of the Academy...no, just no.
- Product placement...that's just blasphemy in a Star Trek movie, IMo
- Warp drive won't travel the 16 LY distance from Earth to Vulcan in minutes, or hours, rather days.....and Delta Vega should have been consumed by a black hole if Vulcan was that visible, i'm sorry.

Other that, decent movie, not the best, certainly no TWOK or First Contact, but hey, with Vulcan destroyed, Sybok's dead and that means ST V: is undone, so there is much rejoicing!

 

[Zeppster]

I don't think you can call these artificial black holes real black holes. They seemed to be time warp singularities.

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

I don't think you can call these artificial black holes real black holes. They seemed to be time warp singularities.

I thought they were plot warp singularities?

 

[satchelmouth]

Anything with a gravitational well powerful enough to suck a planet into it presumably should at least do something to Delta Vega. I mean, some seismic activity wouldn't have hurt

 

[Zeppster]

Anything with a gravitational well powerful enough to suck a planet into it presumably should at least do something to Delta Vega. I mean, some seismic activity wouldn't have hurt

I agree, Spock shouldn't have been able to see the planet get sucked in, that was just used as a plot devise.

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

Not unless it had a certain event horizon, not far enough away to influence the moon. Though the fact that the planet imploded, the black hole disappeared and the moon was still there was a bit of a strange one.

 

[26138]

...but hey, with Vulcan destroyed, Sybok's dead and that means ST V: is undone, so there is much rejoicing!

Ha! No more Sybok!

 

[Dark Gilligan]

Disliked:
- Chekov's accent started to get grating after a while, and I was having horrible flashbacks of Wesley Crusher.

The Russian accent is real. Anton Yelchin's family emigrated to the States from Russia. He himself doesn't speak that way in real life but he grew up with plenty of people who do.

 

[Jeri]

The "Admiral Archer" thing has already been discussed. The dog couldn't have been the same dog; but some people do name successive dogs of the same breed by the same name. And the Archer probably wasn't Jonathan, but some descendant.

The Russian accent is real. Anton Yelchin's family emigrated to the States from Russia. He himself doesn't speak that way in real life but he grew up with plenty of people who do.

Interesting; thanks!

 

[Lindley]

Vulcan doesn't need to be visible. Spock felt it from lightyears away when a single Vulcan starship was destroyed; I'm sure he could "sense", with visual metaphor, his entire planet going up.

 

[Zeppster]

The "Admiral Archer" thing has already been discussed. The dog couldn't have been the same dog; but some people do name successive dogs of the same breed by the same name. And the Archer probably wasn't Jonathan, IMO, but some descendant.

The Russian accent is real. Anton Yelchin's family emigrated to the States from Russia. He himself doesn't speak that way in real life but he grew up with plenty of people who do.

Interesting; thanks!

I think it's in some Star Trek canon somewhere that Archer was a alive to see the launch of the 1701. But that was it was said the Const Class were launched in the 2240s. This was all noncanon btw, just like the Robert April stuff