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"I'm a soldier, not a diplomat." - Kirk, "Errand of Mercy"
And then there's the time Kirk refers to Garth of Izar as being the Federation's greatest warrior at a time when it needed warriors.
For anyone worrying about rank insignia - Chief Lieutenant Senior Ensign Petty JG Officer O'Brien says hello
So does half of Voyager's crew halfway through Season 1.
Weren't there "crewmen" on TOS?
In the first episode ever broadcast. Crewman Green. With no rank braid on his sleeve.
You must be new to Star Trek fandom, eh?
Since even Star Trek can't keep it straight, what hope do we have?You must be new to Star Trek fandom, eh?
For them it's a job, for us it's an obsession.
And there was FIRST CREWMAN in "The Cage" pilot, who manned the communications station and whose braid isn't a solid stripe.
From the script:
And in later drafts he was referred to as Bridge Chief Petty Officer Garrison.
Love the auxiliary control room viewscreen frame on the gif.
Indeed, we have dialogue from TOS that explicitly confirms ranks below "officer" (ie ensign):
[Corridor]
(Suddenly, one of Chekov's men turns against him, taking his weapon and shooting another. Kirk throws his final assailant and he gets zapped into molecules too. The turbolift opens and two armed men come out.)
MAN: Your men, Captain. Easy, Farrell. I did your job. Ask the captain.
FARRELL: Sir?
KIRK: Yes, he did your job.
FARRELL: Smart boy, switching to the top dog.
KIRK: Get him out of here.
MAN: Mister Chekov was going to make me a chief. You could make me an officer.
KIRK: All right. You're working for me.
MAN: A commission?
KIRK: You're in line. You might even make captain.
MAN: Yes, sir.
(Kirk punches him.)
KIRK: Not on my ship.
FARRELL: The booth for this one, sir?
KIRK: Yes, the booth. Carry on.
(Chekov is taken away.)
Admittedly, this is from Mirror, Mirror so it's not as helpful as if it had been stated in a regular episode, but IMO given regular references to "crewman" and "yeoman" since the beginning it's at least persuasive though perhaps not definitive.
He did, however as I and others have pointed out, the aired material doesn't really reflect this assertion for the most part.
My headcanon -- which is supported by onscreen dialogue -- is that he conflated the "unskilled high school graduate (at best)" that he was vaguely aware of from his own military service, who were very much segregated "below decks" for their entire service, and that survive to a degree in the temporary "undesignated striker" role in the modern USN but to a lesser degree than of old and have been almost entirely removed in most Commonwealth navies in the 21st Century.
I've no problem with BTS material being regarded as suggestive, but IMO it's at least "third tier" below aired material and verified scripts/canon (not licensed) published material.
I disagree.
Statements by the creators should be treated as more authoritative than unfilmed or deleted script material, for the reason that such deletions often (not always) reflect a difference between the creative choices of a given writer and the people in charge of creating and maintaining the content and course of a show.
Material that is filmed but deleted from a final cut falls into a different category still, since this was approved and produced and may - particularly these days - be added back into the show at some point.
So, I suppose the way I'd rank it is:
Parenthetically, as far as "canon" goes, as a matter of preference I privilege events that are actually portrayed onscreen over statements made by characters or in-story authorities in reference to off-screen events or supporting material to the story.*
Licensed materials are in a different category of work altogether.
*And folks who want to argue about "This is canon because there was a line of text on a document in a shot AND I COULD READ IT!" are welcome to go...do that, I guess.
Statements by the creators should be treated as more authoritative than unfilmed or deleted script material, for the reason that such deletions often (not always) reflect a difference between the creative choices of a given writer and the people in charge of creating and maintaining the content and course of a show.
Material that is filmed but deleted from a final cut falls into a different category still, since this was approved and produced and may - particularly these days - be added back into the show at some point.
So, I suppose the way I'd rank it is:
- The released and distributed show (so-called "canon");
- Additional produced footage removed from the initially released and distributed show;
- The certain declarations of the "above-the-line" creators ;
- Additional unproduced/deleted script material, designs and concept art.
Parenthetically, as far as "canon" goes, as a matter of preference I privilege events that are actually portrayed onscreen over statements made by characters or in-story authorities in reference to off-screen events or supporting material to the story.*
Licensed materials are in a different category of work altogether.
*And folks who want to argue about "This is canon because there was a line of text on a document in a shot AND I COULD READ IT!" are welcome to go...do that, I guess.
He also surmised the Borg might have been from the same machine planet V'ger encountered. Interesting, but not true.
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It might be "true" next week or next month. Because none of this really did or will ever happen.
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