Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by NCC-73515, Sep 9, 2021.
I mean Trek fans.
Loved? No. Especially since they did my man Kyle Katarn wrong
Yes, I am. Starfleet should be bigger than just the characters we've seen on screen.
I've seen people tearing into Rogue One six ways from sunday on this very board.
KIRK: Are you sure, Spock?
SPOCK: Yes, Captain. It is most definitely him. Incidentally, Lt. Uhura and I served with one of his descendants during Captain Pike's command.
KIRK: Really? Is there anything you can tell me that would be helpful?
SPOCK: Negative. Lt. La'an was somewhat... embarrassed by her heritage.
(McCOY and SCOTTY enter)
KIRK: Ah, gentlemen, take a seat. Mr. Spock has determined the true identity of our guest. (Spock activates the monitor to reveal a picture of their guest) Name; Khan, as we know him today. (Spock changes the picture) Name, Khan Noonien Singh.
SPOCK: From 1992 through 1996, absolute ruler of more than a quarter of your world. From Asia through the Middle East.
MCCOY: The last of the tyrants to be overthrown.
It always "should" have been.
But we don't watch Starfleet. We watch Star Trek, which is about a few characters that the creators decide to depict. They're free to be as arbitrary about who they follow as they like.
Mentioning Khan's descendant when Khan was onboard the Enterprise, actively hostile and looking for recruits, and has a superhuman ability that could possibly overcome any Enterprise communication security, is probably the last thing anyone on the Enterprise wants to do in Space Seed.
"Starfleet, per my recommendation, has classified the existence of my half-brother Sybok under penalty of treason. He has been exiled to a desert world at the junction of the Federation-Klingon-Romulan border that will in no way in a few years time be set up as some sort of experimental 'Planet of Galactic Peace.'"
As it sometimes deserves. Perhaps not with the intensity that often happens with online discussions though
After TMP, the secondary characters all should've moved on and be replaced with newer ones, sorta like the original plan for Trek II.
I hope it turns out that "Noonien-Singh" is just one of the most common last names on Earth, and that the original Khan Noonien Singh took after his namesake, Genghis, in reproducing with many, many women. Although he may have done so in a laboratory rather than a war camp.
Well, records were fragmentary. Perhaps last names became less diverse for a time.
Doctor Piper? Old, white man. Doctor Boyce? Old, white man.
Give us Doctor Puri. And helmsman McKenna. And Chief Engineer Olson.
They did. In 2009.
If I remember correctly things didn't work out too hot for any of them.
To be fair, most TOS-era androids could be destroyed by Kirk-logic. Data is a bit more advanced.
Not really. Kirk didn't initially know he had brought Khan aboard the Enterprise. The Botany Bay was an unregistered ship with no data on it, much less who was aboard. By the time Kirk and crew figured out who Khan was, the fact that a descendant of his had served on the Enterprise years ago, wouldn't be that terribly important. At best, it's trivia or something that was mentioned offscreen with no relevance to what was going on in "Space Seed."
KIRK: A descendant of yours once served on the ship years ago...
KHAN: How interesting...may I have some water?
(continues to quietly plan to take over the Enterprise)
Canon violation no doubt. But I would sensibly chuckle at their inclusion.
A few random thoughts about this new Noonien Singh character, off the top of my head:
Will we get one (many) scenes where someone is upset with her, and shouts "LAAAAA'AAAAAAAAN!" ?
If she has a daughter, is her name Na'an? (or was that her mom? But we're forbidden to talk about her.)
I'll be here all week.
As is tradition.
Didn't Olsen burn to a crisp swinging into the blast from Nero's mining platform? I'd say that was pretty hot.
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