SNW computer AI and voice

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by jefferiestubes8, Sep 8, 2021.

  1. DaveyNY

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    Perhaps it should be noted that Rod Roddenberry is an Executive Producer on many of the new Trek shows, and he is fine with his mother's voice being used if they so desire.
     
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  2. Relayer1

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    You can't really take Trek tech much further for visual and storytelling reasons. Faster travel looks pretty indistinguishable from what we see now, lifelike machines are just people if they're too lifelike, communication over vast distances already exists, holographic screens, whatever.

    In fact futurists predict very different, less cinematic future in a shorter timespan than the 24th cenrury. Implanted computers, extended lifespans, uploaded consciousness, exploring the universe virtually etc. All already portrayed, unexciting on screen or too way out for mainstream entertainment.

    You still need a ship, physical travel, interaction with computers or people in a comprehensible manner etc.
     
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  3. KamenRiderBlade

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    I wouldn't bother with life-like machines. I'd go for different form factors, shapes, and sizes.

    Imagine a Centaur Android with snake appendage for it's tail.

    Or Large Android Spider Mechs with Wheels mounted on each leg.

    There are all sorts of form factors for Android/Mecha that doesn't involve life-like mimicking humanity.

    As much as I like computers, I don't want it implanted in me if I don't absolute need it.

    I'm down for extended life-spans and other genetic enhancements as long as they make sense.

    Uploaded conciousness could be cool, but I prefer remote control of a Bioroid body using a Cyber-Telepathic link.

    I still prefer traveling on a StarShip and physically going to a place, interacting with it as much as possible IRL or via remote tele presence if need be.
     
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  4. Pauln6

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    If the Rodenberrys are fine with it and Majel saw it as part of her legacy then I'd be very happy to have her computer voice again. Not only is it an homage to her, it demonstrates what can be done for people who lose their voices due to illness such as those with multiple sclerosis or motor neurone disease.

    I know Majel was frustrated with Chapel and thought she was a loser because she was so badly written but I still thought it was very disrespectful to her memory to condense her character to an off-screen sex joke in Into Darkness when the actress had just passed away. This would be a much nicer way to respect her contribution over the decades.
     
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  5. captain crow

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    Ah. The usual Trek inspired the creation of everything nonsense.

    Nope

    Debunked, on this very forum, with the added bonus that the original communicator design looks suspiciously like the flip-phone prototype.

    Pretty sure those popped up in pre-Star Trek stuff.

    Nope

    That type of door was Invented by Lew Hewitt and Dee Horton in 1954. The first one was installed in 1960 and they were sold commercially later that same year.

    https://www.automaticaccess.co.uk/blog/the-history-of-automatic-doors/

    Nope

    Head mounted tech like that first popped up in the 1960's before Star Trek was ever made.

    https://www.vrs.org.uk/virtual-reality/history.html


    Your list of stuff Star Trek "inspired" is nothing more than a bunch of stuff that would have naturally evolved that way anyway and stuff they filed the serial numbers off of and claimed as their own idea.
     
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  6. KamenRiderBlade

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    So basically, the Star Trek creative staff stole those ideas from popular culture of that era, is what you're trying to say?
     
  7. Serveaux

    Serveaux Boomer American Premium Member

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    They didn't invent anything. They used a variety of ideas, gadgets and premises that existed in pulp science fiction, westerns, comics and so on along with suggestions by engineers and scientists that they consulted. They incorporated the bits that worked for their format into the show.

    Hell, the transporter was nothing but a format fix. It really wasn't based on any "futurism" beyond the teleporters that skiffy stories had been rife with for decades.

    Most of what's in early Trek tracks back to the movie Forbidden Planet.
     
  8. Nerys Myk

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    Seems like they "stole them" from developing and existent technology.
     
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  9. captain crow

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    If the shoe fits.

    Most of the stuff you listed looks to have existed in some form before Trek used it.

    Also when one can simply point at The Jestons* which aired from September 23, 1962 to March 17, 1963 to debunk the "Star Trek did this first" fallacy. Well... :shrug:




    *They had flat panel big screen TVs, teleconferencing, and automatic sliding doors.
     
  10. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    Next you guys are gonna tell me that Star Trek didn't inspire the preamble to the Constitution...
     
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  11. KamenRiderBlade

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    So Star Trek didn't inspire that much new technology, only a small handful of inventions.
     
  12. captain crow

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    Pretty much all their tech is cribbed form other works of fiction, new real world tech of the time, and science journals. They didn't really come up with much of anything on their own.

    This whole "Star Trek inspired X tech" thing comes from lazy people who can't be bothered to do even the smallest amount of research and those who bizarrely try to put the show on a high pedestal it doesn't deserve to be on.
     
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  13. KamenRiderBlade

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    =(
     
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  14. dupersuper

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    I remember one of the novels established that the computer has that voice because Number One and Spock programmed the computer on the Enterprise, and that computer became the basis for the computers in the rest of the fleet and they just stuck with that voice over the years through all of the upgrades, but I don't remember which novel it was, or whether it was set before or after the time of this show.
     
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  15. DaveyNY

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    For everybody who wasn't into Sci-Fi when Star Trek hit the airwaves, its Tech was the first time most of the general public became aware of that kind of stuff.

    So to say those things came from Trek is true for a majority of the TV viewing audience.
    (thus the numerous folks who grew up thinking it was)
    :shrug:
     
  16. Donald G

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    The Rift, by Peter David.
     
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  17. fireproof78

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    Yup, but the fantasy world is much more fun.
     
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  18. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Actually, no.

    Tasia Valenza (T'Shanik from TNG's "Coming of Age") was the Shenzhou computer voice. The Discovery computer was voiced by Julianne Grossman, at least before Zora started kicking in.

    (Fun fact: The male Enterprise computer voice in "Mirror, Mirror" was John Winston!)

    Really?
     
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    I really don't think Trek inspired much of that stuff at all. I think it TOOK inspiration from things that were considered brand new, cutting edge, ideas of the future, at the time they were filming the original show.
     
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