Smith & Leather...

[Veediotgamer]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/8822726/Doctor-Who-star-Matt-Smith-wants-a-new-uniform.html

Interesting to say the least. I don't see them changing the coat, unless they go with the nice olive-green pea coat he's been wearing as of late. If Doctor Who were in America and Smith requested leather over his already iconic tweed and bow tie, the producers would hand him a belt and say, "Glad we talked." Not too familiar with the BBC, but I see them doing something similar.

 

[Rowan Sjet]

Is "hand him a belt" literal or a metaphor? :idgi:

 

[Newspaper Taxi]

It's a pretty iconic tradition for executives/higher ups in America to give their actors small gifts like belts and suspenders. I'm surprised you hadn't heard of that. I think I read it originated in the depression era when finding work was hard...You know, a way for the showrunners to say, "Hey, we've got your back -- we'll keep your pants from fallign down!"

EDIT: Edited to mention this post is all BS. : )

 

[Veediotgamer]

lol It's a literal term. You know, I was thinking I should have specified "leather belt" as most people buy other types these days. I'm old fashioned, only purchase leather so I simply didn't give it much thought. And yes, I know Newspaper Taxi, but that doesn't make it any less funny. Sad to say, that may be exactly what might end up happening if we don't get this economy out of the crapper.

 

[C.E. Evans]

I could see additional changes to the Eleventh Doctor's outfit in the future. I think as long as the bow tie stays, everything else is fair game, IMO. The Seventh Doctor was really the last one to have a really different costume than the one he originally started off with, but he kept his trademark hat.

 

[Anachronus]

He's just having Nine flashbacks.

 

[Veediotgamer]

I liked the Nine's look, but Two is my all time favorite. It just seemed slapdash, but Doctorish. They did great with Eleven. Back to the "educator" look.

 

[Newspaper Taxi]

I've had some time to reflect on the notion of Eleven in Leather and I think it could be fun if it was played off as the Doctor looks really uncool in leather. For some reason I get the feeling Doc-11 might end up looking even dorkier like that.

Doctor: I wear leather now. Leather's cool.
Amy:...Not on you.
Doctor: (Looks to river, mouth hanging open.)
River: (Shakes head sadly.) Sorry, love.

 

[Timofnine]

a leather bow tie

 

[Starkers]

Yeah whenever the 11th Doctor tries to look cool he fails...it's when he doesn't try that he looks cool!

 

[Veediotgamer]

I agree in part, but also disagree. He sort of embodies my idea of true cool, and that is that he sets the fashions. The fact that he insists something is cool is only him being partly insecure about his confidence in taste, but the fact that he insists that it's cool and then continues to wear it shows that he's a trend-setter and doesn't care about what others really think.

To most he looks like a clownish school teacher, but he believes that he looks cool, so he wears his tweed and bow tie in confidence and pride. This sense of, "I'm cool because I say I'm cool" is what makes him completely brilliant. And it wears off on others. I've even found in my own life that insisting something I do, say, or wear is cool actually makes it all the less awkward, and people actually start to accept them from that point on. Much like we've accepted the Tweed and Bow tie. And for a moment... Stetsons were cool.

 

[Psion]

... I've even found in my own life that insisting something I do, say, or wear is cool actually makes it all the less awkward, and people actually start to accept them from that point on. Much like we've accepted the Tweed and Bow tie. And for a moment... Stetsons were cool.

I do all the cooking in my house and my wife recently asked me why, on one particular dish, I'd switched from my usual use of penne pasta to farfalle. Perfectly straight-faced, I looked at her and replied, "Because bow-tie pastas are cool."

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

It seems plain that Smith's natural style is trying to spill into the Doctor character. While every doctor since Peter Davison's has had a pretty set wardrobe style, Matt himself is known to be something of a fashionista and is trying to get more ot himself into what the Doctor would wear. I certainly don't mind playing with the core stuff. This Doctor has now been around for 200+ years. Why wouldn't he change his dress style every once in a while? Tom Baker's motif really only had the scarf as a true constant element of his wardrobe (in its own different versions), pretty much everything else changed over the years.

If it keeps Smith in the role a couple more years, I say let him wear whatever the hell the Doctor wants him to wear. As long as the bow tie stays on.

Mark

 

[Veediotgamer]

... I've even found in my own life that insisting something I do, say, or wear is cool actually makes it all the less awkward, and people actually start to accept them from that point on. Much like we've accepted the Tweed and Bow tie. And for a moment... Stetsons were cool.

I do all the cooking in my house and my wife recently asked me why, on one particular dish, I'd switched from my usual use of penne pasta to farfalle. Perfectly straight-faced, I looked at her and replied, "Because bow-tie pastas are cool."

Brilliant!

 

[Veediotgamer]

I'd agree. As long as they keep the same basic stuff, I'll be happy. The Doctor's "look" is easy to break down, really. Hair, Jacket, Coat, and Major Accessories (i.e. Sonic Screwdriver, Bow Tie, "Brainy Specs") Keep with that motif and you can't go wrong. You can change any one of the categories, but you need to have all of them present.

 

[Rarewolf]

The Seventh Doctor was really the last one to have a really different costume than the one he originally started off with, but he kept his trademark hat.

Sylvester's own. He wore that to the audition and jokes the hat won the role, but he came with it

I tend to think of the TVM costume as the grown up proper version of the one the BBC gave him. It's the same profile.

Looking at the action figure's Tom had far more variant costumes that I ever realised. I think Matt just wants more figures

 

[Cutter John]

A costume change would make sense story wise as well. If the Doc is trying to keep a low profile, changing into clothes he's never worn before would make sense.

But as long as they keep the nerd aesthetic, I'm game.

 

[C.E. Evans]

The Seventh Doctor was really the last one to have a really different costume than the one he originally started off with, but he kept his trademark hat.

Sylvester's own. He wore that to the audition and jokes the hat won the role, but he came with it

Yup, I remember that. My hometown of St. Louis was one of the few US cities that was able to get a sneak peak at McCoy shortly after he was announced as the Seventh and he was wearing the panama hat with his regular clothes.

I tend to think of the TVM costume as the grown up proper version of the one the BBC gave him. It's the same profile.

There was an illustration floating around here quite awhile back that showed the evolution of the Seventh Doctor's costume and even took into account how it appeared in several novels set after "Survival" and before the TV movie. I think at one point, it became a simple cream-colored business suit with just a shirt and tie (no pullover or waistcoat), causing him to be referred to at one point as "the man in white," IIRC.

 

[Starkers]

A costume change would make sense story wise as well. If the Doc is trying to keep a low profile, changing into clothes he's never worn before would make sense.

But as long as they keep the nerd aesthetic, I'm game.

I can see it now...

Dalek 1. "It is the Doctor."

Dalek 2. "Nah."

Dalek 1. "He is standing beside the Tardis, he said his name is the Doc'tor, and he is holding a sonic screwdriver."

Dalek 2. "Yes but records indicate the Doc'tor wears a bow tie."

Dalek 1. "Oh. Sorry. My mistake."

 

[Trubinator]

I agree that a costume change would make sense within the context of the "keep a low profile" story that's sure to dominate season seven. Personally, I'd rather they keep him in the same outfit. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.