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Smile (Grade & Discussion Thread)

How do you feel about this episode?

  • Love Heart

    Votes: 8 10.4%
  • Smiley Face

    Votes: 50 64.9%
  • Straight Face

    Votes: 15 19.5%
  • Sad Face

    Votes: 4 5.2%
  • Angry Face

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    77
  • Poll closed .
"There's something hunting us. And it ain't no Dalek."
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What, I always thought his name was Beelie? Curse you, Schwarzenegger! ;)
 
And wasn't part of the reason they dropped the sonic screwdriver because it became a cheat to get out of trouble?

Yes and I wish the writers would go back to that. Look, I don't mind the sonic screwdriver being used to open a door here and there but it should not be used to literally solve the entire problem with just a wave like it was in this episode. It makes for lazy writing. It is much more interesting when the Doctor needs to use his cleverness and his powers of persuasion to solve a problem rather than just wave his sonic screwdriver.
 
Yes and I wish the writers would go back to that. Look, I don't mind the sonic screwdriver being used to open a door here and there

Although my favourite use of the sonic screwdriver was from Day of the Doctor -- in how to demolish a wooden door. Program it, and hundreds of years later it's ready to demolish it at an atomic level.

Or you could just open the door :)
 
Although my favourite use of the sonic screwdriver was from Day of the Doctor -- in how to demolish a wooden door. Program it, and hundreds of years later it's ready to demolish it at an atomic level.

Or you could just open the door :)

Yeah, that was funny. Using the sonic screwdriver to open doors makes more sense when the doors are futuristic rather than wooden. :) Although, since it is called a screwdriver, I wonder why its rarely used to unscrew things? LOL
 
I do feel like the episode gave us some interesting scifi concepts. We got a city made up of intelligent nanobots. We got an artificial intelligence emerging into its own sentient civilization. We got an artificial intelligence treating the emotion of grief like a virus. We got an artificial intelligence monitoring human emotion and trying to force the people to conform to its definition of happiness. Sadly, I feel like some of these ideas were kinda glossed over too quickly.
This is similar to what I thought. I liked the concept. But, the story felt too sterile. We just weren't connected to anything in this story other than the Doctor and Bill. Not connected to the colonists, the colony, their journey, where they're going, etc. Some nice banter, some nice ideas, and a beautiful filming location. But, no real connection to anyone/anything else in the story.

Mr Awe
 
The Billie/Doctor relationship is really growing on me. Unfortunately, I found this episode to be a tedious filler episode.
 
I did really like how Bill was like "wait, did we just jump start a new civilization?" and the Doctor was very nonchalant about it, like it was no big deal.
 
Mostly average story material, elevated by the fact that Peter Capaldi and Pearl Mackie make such a great team. It's actually a shame they'll be broken up after this season, I could easily watch another season at least of those two bantering with each other. Oh well, those who burn the brightest burn the quickest, I suppose.

While this episode is miles ahead of FCB's other script, the dreadful Forest of the Night, I do see a rather disturbing theme present in both stories, in that it's apparently not okay to mourn the dead. In Forest of the Night we had the really horrible message that it's better to let children die so that they don't have to mourn their dead parents, while in this episode we have people grieving for the dead literally causing their own death. While I can understand it's never healthy to let your grief for a lost loved one consume you, grieving lost loved ones in general is okay and quite normal. Yet it seems oddly enough that FCB is of the opinion that grief itself is something evil and to be avoided. Which is an odd enough message in television in general, even stranger in a show where children are in the target audience.

An observation, but it seems as though Nardole is taking on a role similar to the Master's in Scream of the Shalka. Which is good, the Master's unique position on the TARDIS team was one of my favourite things about Shalka, so I'm glad we're seeing it replicated in a manner of speaking on the show itself.
 
Bill and 12 may become my favourite Moffat era combo.

As for Class, well, it's Doctor Who, so I watch it, just like, as a Star Trek fan, I watched early TNG and all of Voyager and Enterprise. Except that I looked forward to most episodes of Class, and there were long runs of certain Trek shows where that was not the case.
 
Considering how ponderous the rest of the episode was, the climax felt clipped off and the solution didn't make a lot of sense. The Doctor effectively left one of the last vestiges of humanity in the potentially tyrannical grip of robot overlo-Landlords that had assumed all of their property and killed off many of their best and brightest. Not his most endearing moment.

On top of that, why did he never use his screwdriver to deactivate the emoji badges or lock them into happy? Clearly he doesn't have much trouble modifying their technology. Seems like the end would have been a lot more poignant if instead of just magic buttoning them the Doctor recognized their sentience from them showing a hint of mourning for a fallen robot and we got a classic bombastic Doctor speech helping them to understand their newfound emotion.
 
Supergirl...

Fought nanites as well, and sfx was shit, and the solution was ####, and long road to figuring out how to fight nanites was just as dumb as here on Doctor Who a few days ago.
 
Mostly average story material, elevated by the fact that Peter Capaldi and Pearl Mackie make such a great team. It's actually a shame they'll be broken up after this season, I could easily watch another season at least of those two bantering with each other. Oh well, those who burn the brightest burn the quickest, I suppose.

While this episode is miles ahead of FCB's other script, the dreadful Forest of the Night, I do see a rather disturbing theme present in both stories, in that it's apparently not okay to mourn the dead. In Forest of the Night we had the really horrible message that it's better to let children die so that they don't have to mourn their dead parents, while in this episode we have people grieving for the dead literally causing their own death. While I can understand it's never healthy to let your grief for a lost loved one consume you, grieving lost loved ones in general is okay and quite normal. Yet it seems oddly enough that FCB is of the opinion that grief itself is something evil and to be avoided. Which is an odd enough message in television in general, even stranger in a show where children are in the target audience.

Good observation. Yes grief is a natural part of life and the world would be an odd place without it.
 
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